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The Great Apostasy [Mormonism labels ALL Protestant, Catholic & Orthodox churches 'apostate']
Mormonism Research Ministry ^ | Aaron Shafovaloff

Posted on 10/09/2013 11:14:38 AM PDT by Colofornian

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To: Colofornian

Mormons beware… Revelation 22: 18-19.

“I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this scroll: If anyone ADDS anything to them, God will add to that person the PLAGUES described in this scroll. And if anyone takes words away from this scroll of prophecy, God will take away from that person any SHARE in the tree of life and in the Holy City, which are described in this scroll”.


21 posted on 10/09/2013 11:42:18 AM PDT by FiddlePig
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To: Colofornian
Addendum.

I take it that your post #16 is at least part of your point?

22 posted on 10/09/2013 11:45:00 AM PDT by YHAOS
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To: Colofornian

BTTT and read for later —much food for thought.....


23 posted on 10/09/2013 11:45:44 AM PDT by duckbutt (Those who pay no taxes have no check on their appetite for services.)
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To: donmeaker

of course the mormons are heretics, just like the baptists


24 posted on 10/09/2013 11:47:53 AM PDT by stonewall_jackson215
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To: Colofornian; betty boop; marron; Alamo-Girl; CottShop; metmom; xzins; GodGunsGuts; Fichori; ...

BEEP!


25 posted on 10/09/2013 11:48:59 AM PDT by YHAOS
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To: donmeaker
I am not sure they accept the validity of the Orthodox and Protestant churches. The Pope makes nice with all types of other religious leaders. But that doesn't mean anyone, even other Christians working from virtually the same coda, who is not Roman Catholic isn't at some level considered a heretic and destined for Hell.

Most of my friends throughout my life have been Roman Catholic so I would welcome being told I am wrong about this.

26 posted on 10/09/2013 11:49:15 AM PDT by katana (Just my opinions)
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To: katana; donmeaker; All
I am not sure they [Catholicism] accept the validity of the Orthodox and Protestant churches. The Pope makes nice with all types of other religious leaders.

An article I saw about 5 yrs ago stressed that the previous Pope said their issue with Protestantism boiled down primarily to two aspects: Authority to baptize and authority re: the eucharist/Lord'Supper.

That doesn't mean Catholicism hasn't had other doctrinal points of contention with Protestantism (hey, parts of Protestantism has doctrinal points of contention within other parts of Protestantism!)...

But you focused on the word "validity" -- but per that article...the only part that recent Catholicism has openly questioned Protestantism's "validity" is on the grounds of the Sacraments & the authority to practice them.

27 posted on 10/09/2013 11:57:41 AM PDT by Colofornian
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To: Colofornian

These folks can call me whatever they want. But at the end of the day I know I am saved by the Grace of Our Lord Christ Jesus.

They know no such comfort and peace and I pray that they will discover it someday.


28 posted on 10/09/2013 12:06:04 PM PDT by MeganC (A gun is like a parachute. If you need one, and don't have one, you'll never need one again. 969)
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To: laotzu; Colofornian

Huh?

Who’s bashing Christians?


29 posted on 10/09/2013 12:09:16 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: MeganC; All
These folks can call me whatever they want. But at the end of the day I know I am saved by the Grace of Our Lord Christ Jesus. They know no such comfort and peace and I pray that they will discover it someday.

Indeed.

Keep in mind. Joseph Smith -- once he was committed to this notion of a "restoration" (vs. a reformation) -- "had" to destroy worldwide Christianity.

If he hadn't, there wouldn't have been need for his alleged "restoration"...

Therefore, he took a "scorched earth" approach...
...attempted to build the biggest spiritual graveyard in the world...
...and attempted to bury it.

But the Church of the Resurrection refuses to play dead.

30 posted on 10/09/2013 12:11:56 PM PDT by Colofornian
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To: katana

Catholics recognize that the Orthodox have apostolic succession. Except for some Anglicans and maybe some Lutherans, not sure any other Christian group has the same understanding as Orthodox/Catholics with apostolic succession.

As far as being destined for hell, Pope Benedict confirmed this:

“It follows that these separated churches and Communities, though we believe they suffer from defects, are deprived neither of significance nor importance in the mystery of salvation. In fact the Spirit of Christ has not refrained from using them as instruments of salvation, whose value derives from that fullness of grace and of truth which has been entrusted to the Catholic Church”

So if your Catholic friends disagree tell them to take it up with the Pope.

Freegards


31 posted on 10/09/2013 12:12:57 PM PDT by Ransomed
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To: Colofornian

Wow, Mormons and Catholics have a ton in common!


32 posted on 10/09/2013 12:18:43 PM PDT by jodyel
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

Why do all these fake religions do all this stupid stuff?

Praying to dead saints, keeping dead saints bodies in glass coffins for all to walk by and gawk at, fall down at the least little ghostly demonic apparition that resembles Mary, and on and on.

Same with Mormonism. Just plain ignorance and stupidity.


33 posted on 10/09/2013 12:21:05 PM PDT by jodyel
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To: FiddlePig; All
Mormons beware… Revelation 22: 18-19. “I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this scroll: If anyone ADDS anything to them, God will add to that person the PLAGUES described in this scroll. And if anyone takes words away from this scroll of prophecy, God will take away from that person any SHARE in the tree of life and in the Holy City, which are described in this scroll”.

Good point.

Btw, LOTS of Mormon apologists & their leaders have attempted to "duck" the warning of Revelation 22:18-19 by claiming that the warning was written to apply only to the book of Revelation -- and not either the entire New Testament or Bible.

Even if that is conceded, what then is STILL the problem resting upon Joseph Smith's spiritual head?

Well, Mormons have endorsed Joseph Smith's rewriting of the Bible. It's called the JST -- or Inspired Version. Smith knew hardly any Greek, but proceeded to revise -- and add on to -- the Bible.

And guess what? Smith added over 500 words to the book of Revelation!

Now, the Salt Lake City-based church still used the KJV -- and not all of the JST. But do you want to know why?

Well the Mormon gods who told Smith to rewrite the KJV forgot to ensure that the copyright for it would stay in the Nauvoo-->Salt Lake City clan of Mormons. Emma Smith, Joseph's widow, wound up keeping the manuscript and the break-off RLDS (now renamed) published the JST.

Several Mormon publications & Mormon leaders have tried claiming that Joseph Smith disobeyed the Mormon gods' directive to publish the JST by saying it was an unfinished work. But others have conceded he did finish it; and even if it was conceded that he didn't finish it, why would that even matter?

After all,
(1) the Mormon "scripture" "Doctrine & Covenants" is by their own admission an "unfinished" book -- given that they literally brag about their gods giving their "prophets" add-on "revelations" which will eventually be added to the book!
(2) Also, if the JST was determined by a past, present or future Mormon "prophet" -- then why haven't ANY of them used the all-powerful "SEER" skills to finish it? What? The Mormon gods directed Smith to finish it, and yet it's not on any Mormon "prophet's" "to-do" list to finish it?

Horse-hockey!

34 posted on 10/09/2013 12:21:29 PM PDT by Colofornian
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To: donmeaker

Have you ever tried convincing a Catholic of anything?

Good luck to you if you do.

I see they have quite a lot in common with Mormons though.


35 posted on 10/09/2013 12:22:09 PM PDT by jodyel
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To: Boogieman

Cults:

1. Roman Catholicism...check
2. Mormonism...check
3. Jehovah’s Witnesses...check
4. Oneness Pentecostals...check


36 posted on 10/09/2013 12:24:15 PM PDT by jodyel
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To: jodyel
Wow, Mormons and Catholics have a ton in common!

The more recent Popes -- like the previous Pope -- have tended to soften their previous stances toward Protestantism.

Their BIGGEST bone of contention now with Protestant churches is the authority to administer the Sacraments (baptism/communion).

They've pulled back "apostate" accusations...some Catholic leaders have gone so far to commend Martin Luther in various ways.

37 posted on 10/09/2013 12:24:35 PM PDT by Colofornian
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To: Colofornian

The Great Apostasy [Mormonism labels ALL Protestant, Catholic & Orthodox churches ‘apostate’]


WoW.... what a bazaar statement....

ON the Other hand.... SOME OF THEM ARE...


38 posted on 10/09/2013 12:24:52 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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“Some FREEPER Catholics have defended Mormonism on FR”

That doesn’t surprise me a bit since they’ve no idea what true Christianity is either.


39 posted on 10/09/2013 12:25:24 PM PDT by jodyel
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To: Colofornian

“Some FREEPER Catholics have defended Mormonism on FR...despite the reality that Mormonism teaches that the RC church is a completely apostate church with no authority to do anything.”

The LDS might teach that, but every time I have seen the whore of Babylon/goddess worshipping idolaters/he who is not to be named on the religion forum drek/Catholic Church is a nonChristian cult garbage about the Catholic Church on FR, it has come from other sorts of Christians, not LDS. Like this thread. So maybe that factors into the dynamic on FR.

Freegards


40 posted on 10/09/2013 12:26:26 PM PDT by Ransomed
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