Posted on 10/19/2013 8:50:26 PM PDT by jodyel
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...but he left OUT: ignore them.
Genesis 18:20-21
20. Then the LORD said, "The outcry against Sodom and Gomorrah is so great and their sin so grievous
21. that I will go down and see if what they have done is as bad as the outcry that has reached me. If not, I will know."
Genesis 19:4-7
4. Before they had gone to bed, all the men from every part of the city of Sodom--both young and old--surrounded the house.
5. They called to Lot, "Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us so that we can have sex with them."
6. Lot went outside to meet them and shut the door behind him
7. and said, "No, my friends. Don't do this wicked thing.
Isaiah 3:9 The look on their faces testifies against them; they parade their sin like Sodom; they do not hide it. Woe to them! They have brought disaster upon themselves.
2 Peter 2:13b Their idea of pleasure is to carouse in broad daylight. They are blots and blemishes, reveling in their pleasures while they feast with you.
Ezekiel 16:49-50
49. "`Now this was the sin of your sister Sodom: She and her daughters were arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy.
50. They were haughty and did detestable things before me. Therefore I did away with them as you have seen.
1. But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them--bringing swift destruction on themselves.
2. Many will follow their shameful ways and will bring the way of truth into disrepute.
3. In their greed these teachers will exploit you with stories they have made up. Their condemnation has long been hanging over them, and their destruction has not been sleeping.
4. For if God did not spare angels when they sinned, but sent them to hell, putting them into gloomy dungeons to be held for judgment;
5. if he did not spare the ancient world when he brought the flood on its ungodly people, but protected Noah, a preacher of righteousness, and seven others;
6. if he condemned the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah by burning them to ashes, and made them an example of what is going to happen to the ungodly;
7. and if he rescued Lot, a righteous man, who was distressed by the filthy lives of lawless men
8. (for that righteous man, living among them day after day, was tormented in his righteous soul by the lawless deeds he saw and heard)--
9. if this is so, then the Lord knows how to rescue godly men from trials and to hold the unrighteous for the day of judgment, while continuing their punishment.
10. This is especially true of those who follow the corrupt desire of the sinful nature and despise authority. Bold and arrogant, these men are not afraid to slander celestial beings;
11. yet even angels, although they are stronger and more powerful, do not bring slanderous accusations against such beings in the presence of the Lord.
12. But these men blaspheme in matters they do not understand. They are like brute beasts, creatures of instinct, born only to be caught and destroyed, and like beasts they too will perish.
13. They will be paid back with harm for the harm they have done. Their idea of pleasure is to carouse in broad daylight. They are blots and blemishes, reveling in their pleasures while they feast with you.
But there IS hope!!!
1 Corinthians 6:9-11
9. Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived:
Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders
10. nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.
11. And that is what some of you were. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.
If you could NOT change, you would be in most pitiful shape...
Yes, I posted somewhere yesterday but will get again.
Give me two shakes.
Just not in the way they think.
Some among the Protestant sects might adopt practices such as the Rule of St. Benedict. It is not going to harm them in itself: it is always good to follow Christ in prayer and fasting; and might even teach them something; but without orthodox Catholic core the trappings of Catholicism do not bring grace and may instead drive the heresy deeper, because they combine with the general Protestant error. You all need to convert to the Catholic Church that Christ founded if you are indeed as interested in the Holy Person of Christ as you say you are, without distinction.
What do you find in these contrary to Catholicism?
The lighthouse people don't come knocking on you doors or fill out contact cards. Other than that they are pretty much the same.
When I lived in Western New York the JW's used to send them to me by the droves. Finally one of their overseers/ elders came to the house. I got out some old copies of the Watchtower and the Bible and after about 2 hours he was asking to leave.
I’ve seen “Imitation of the Christ” in all kinds of Protestant bookstores now. I’ve read it, seems to be all about being humble and humility (perhaps those terms say the same thing).
However, the episkopos (which Baptists consider to be a pastor of the local church, most certainly the senior pastor) of 1 Tim 3 must be the husband of one wife (is that one wife at a time? or one wife in his lifetime? certainly the only husband of that woman, no divorce acceptable); he must rule his house well (not only his wife being a willing subject to his rule, but also his children)(see esp. verse 5); and if the wives of deacons must be well-behaved in the social context in loyalty to husband and churchchurch or in the worldly community, how much more so the wife of a pastor?
And for Titus, in appointing presbutoi (elders) as officers of local churches, Chapter 1 gives the same criteria to apply as were given Timothy for qualifications of episkopoi (bishops) and diakonoi (deacons) candidates. For Baptists, referring to the pastor, the terms bishop and elder are equivalent, interchangeable. In Chapter 2, the wife of the pastor/bishop/elder is to be able to teach by example how to love her husband, love her children, to be discreet, chaste, keepers of the family home; good in attitude, accomplishment, and reputation; and obedient to her husband.
In this requirement, unhappily, Dr. Stanley has not been able to command these qualities from his family--only demand them, and in this he has failed as yet; therefore he is no longer qualified for this office in the church. It is further demonstrated that he is not able to teach how these features in family harmony are to be achieved.
Please read and meditate on these verses, and see if you do not come to the same conclusions that the Scripture, in context, shows me.
Do you have a serious problem in selecting, memorizing, meditating on, and applying Scripture? If so, you might want to have a personal chat with a spiritually mature counselor, in whom you feel you can trust, for useful guidance.
Respectfully --
Thanks for your thoughtful comments on this issue.
LOL!
Graham and Schuller are both Freemasons.
Both media creations too.
When two or more are gathered in his name, Yeshua is there.
Looking back at MY life, I can state that I was EXACTLY in one of the categories named by BG - looking for SOMETHING that I did not know what it was yet.
You’re kidding; right?
Good for you!
(But I suspect I might been asking to leave after that much time, too! ;^)
Wow!
You've set the bar kinda high!!
I get the impression that Jesus must have said something to him on the lines of, "Get thee behind me..." or something similar.
And yet...
Luke 14:26
If any man come to Me and hate not his father and mother, and wife and children, and brethren and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be My disciple.
Odd that! They shriek and moan when a thread IS about them and, when it's not, they MAKE it about them!
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