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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans
Sorry, but I tuned out after "A blasphemous preposition, since it basically claims that there is salvation outside of Jesus Christ..."

Wrong-o. It "basically claims" no such thing. Scripture establishes that Jesus Christ is the Light; it also establishes that He is the Light who enlightens every man who comes into the world.

Jesus can appear to anyone as Light, anytime He wants to. He did so to St. Paul. Will you dispute that?

Are you privy to the fact, closed off to all the rest of us, that Jesus either cannot or will not come to Mongolian boys, Scripture to the contrary notwithstanding??

This would seem to be not a Savior you believe in, but a System: an automatic, inexorable, clanking, grinding, soul-sorting System. And one rich only in damnation.

I trust my Savior more. I have to. My life is in His hand.

196 posted on 10/20/2013 4:19:12 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("If I have all faith, so as to remove mountains, but have not love, I am nothing." - 1 Cor. 13:2)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

“Wrong-o. It “basically claims” no such thing. Scripture establishes that Jesus Christ is the Light; it also establishes that He is the Light who enlightens every man who comes into the world.

Jesus can appear to anyone as Light, anytime He wants to. He did so to St. Paul. Will you dispute that?”


This is more of an emotional response, than it is to anything I had said, otherwise you would not have said it. Obviously when Christ appeared before Paul, He did so as Jesus Christ and, not, say, a pagan god, or no God at all. Keep in mind I do remember our previous conversations on this same matter. Do you claim that an atheist can get into heaven as long as he “follows” his conscience, or is, by your Catholic reckoning, a good person? If not, then you are proposing then is that a Mongolian somewhere can come to revelation that Jesus is the Christ. I’m not sure I am displeased with that. Even Muslims have had dreams and visions of Jesus Christ, and have been taught the Gospel in that way. When Paul was confronted with Christ on the road to Damascus, Christ did not fail to reveal who and what He really was. It wasn’t Plato envisioning the “One” through His reasoning, who, inevitably, still sinned, and therefore would go to hell for his sins.

But if the Mongolian is merely following his conscience, speaking in the sense of a Pope Francis, and is being saved through a devotion to some higher ideal of goodness, like that Atheist reporter Francis was interviewed by, then he is most certainly damned, since the scripture is clear that all the gentiles are guilty outside of Jesus Christ.


199 posted on 10/20/2013 4:27:57 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans
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