What’s left? Emotionology?
Matthew 10:34
Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
I think this is another way of warning us of repeating the “sins” of the Pharasees. And of doing something by rote, rather than understand WHY we do/pray it.
He pretty much lets us conservatives off the hook with this language, but Pelosi is definitly on it, imho.
Ideology is an aping of doctrine.
The Resurrection is not an ideology - it is a historical fact with profound spiritual importance.
The great conservative thinkers - like Edmund Burke and Russell Kirk - have warned against conservatives imitating ideological constructs like Jacobinism and Leninism.
Subsidiarity is insurance against ideology.
>>Francis said because ideology is rigid and non-inclusive, it pushes people away and leaves out the grace of God.
Sez the leader of the most rigid and rulebound part of Christendom.
Keeping a close watch on this Pope.
He is either very right or very wrong.
Overall I get what he is trying to convey, but he also seems to be loosing the Church from the moorings of the teachings of the Bible.
He seems to be advocating fervent worship, but his direction of worship without sound biblical mooring also could provide many with confusion on just who and what is being worshiped.
Frank, Frank, Frank.
Eiki: “An ideology is a set of conscious and unconscious ideas that constitute one’s goals, expectations and actions. An ideology is a comprehensive vision, a way of looking at things (compare worldview) as in several philosophical tendencies (see political ideologies), or a set of ideas proposed by the dominant class of a society to all members of this society (a “received consciousness” or product of socialization).”
IOW, you have an ideology, I have a world view.
Everybody has an ideology, it’s just that some refuse to admit it. I suspect Frank is using ideology to mean “bad ideology,” but that’s a really dumb thing to do.
Wow.
This can be read on several layers. On the surface, I understand the argument. It is not controversial. It is what Christ would say.
But,
We’ve been here before. Vatican II was not controversial (sorry to friends who disagree), it was just “heard” in creative ways, ways that gave license to that which was not intended. Layers of meanings were found, layers that were inferred not intended.
I believe that Francis may be naive. Many of the saints were naive, blessedly so. Naivete in Peter’s chair though could cost souls.
Need to pray on this, and hope that I am wrong.
The serious illness of the Church is the fear of preaching the Bible as written and risk offending someone. You cannot like some parts of God’s Word and ignore the ones you don’t like. It is all or nothing. You may not like what the Bible says about a certain topic but you can bet God isn’t interested in not offending you. His wrath is already upon us as stated in John 3:18 it is up to us to accept the gift He has offered us to escape that wrath and not think we are equal to Him and decide which of His Words we want to follow.
Dumb question, dogmas are not ideologies. They are articles of faith. Faith is in the will, not in the mind. Holiness is in the will, not in the reason. Reason is the handmaiden of faith.
You miss the point. He is simply saying that love trumps all else. Nothing more. You can’t hate someone because they disagree with you. Nor, if you don’t show them love, will they ever come to agree with you. God is Love.
Sounds good - now, will the Pope request that of the Muslims out there?
Of course, we know what the reply would be.
Crusades II - the only question is will it happen before, during, or after CW-II.
Whew, we’ve got a lot on our plate.
New Papal statement:
The gate isn’t really narrow. It’s as wide as we can make it. Y’all come! And you of the Faithful? You ain’t all that!
Where do you draw the line between ramaining faithful to “the whole counsel of God” and Ideology? It’s not phariseeism because the sin if the pharisees was hypocrisy. They didn’t practice what the preached. Nobody condones that. What is being tossed around as “ideology” here is something different than that but the Pope never quite defines it.
I’d start with finding out what he really said instead of these stupid articles that take soundbites from him and make a mountain out of a molehill.
Anybody got a link to the full speech.
Constantine destroyed Christianity for 1500 years.
Every Christian who has judged or sought to impose Christianity on anyone is a Constantine Christian with an ideology.
A true Christian is tolerant of sin even as he/she lives and espouses another way.
Muslims are all about ideology, judging, which leads to a will to sanction and enforce, which is Pharisaical and against Christ’s will.
This pope will not destroy the Church but he’s doing the best job that he can do toward that effort. Our Lady of Fatima warned that many terrible things would happen to the Church, and we are now seeing that prophesy play out as no one could have ever imagined. The very foolish and uninformed will follow his heretical lead, but faithful Catholics will hold fast to the traditional teachings of our Church and pray that the Holy Spirit instill some truth in his heart. But through this all we have only one pope and he is it. And as painful and as incongruous as it may seem, this heretic will remain our pope until the Holy Spirit allows otherwise. God help us all.
I don’t think I like this new pope. At all.