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Let Us Not Pray: Atheists to Hold a Service in Leeds Church [UK]
Yorkshire Evening Post ^ | 10/21/13 | Andreas Mullings

Posted on 10/22/2013 7:51:32 PM PDT by marshmallow

A godless church may seem to some as an oxymoron, but it has become a reality as the oldest church in Leeds opens its doors for an atheist congregation.

The Sunday Assembly Leeds is a non-profit organisation which has chosen to put away religion but still keep the traditions of song and sermons.

Originally starting in London last January it was created by two comedians, Sanderson Jones and Pippa Evans.

After success in the capital they have now launched their movement worldwide in their ‘40 days and 40 nights tour’, which will be opening assemblies in the UK, including Leeds, Ireland, US, Canada and Australia. Michelle Beckett, 40 from Harrogate is one of the Leeds’ assembly organisers. She said: “We have had a huge response so far. We have already had over 100 people sign up for the assembly. We’d like to take all of the good bits out of church, and leave the religious stuff behind.

“It’s a shame that people who have no faith do not know the feeling of belonging that comes with religion, that’s why we are doing this.”

She added: “The structure is the same as church, you will have talks, songs and a sense of community. The London assemblies have now started to sprout charity works and community book groups.”

Without the use of religious hymns and a religious text, the group uses inspirational talks and pop songs, such as Queen’s Don’t Stop Me Now and Monty Python’s Always Look on the Bright Side of Life.

The congregation will start at St John the Evangelist church Tuesday, October 29 and people of any belief or background can join in. The congregation in Leeds will meet once a month after the initial launch, meeting every month on a Sunday.

St John the Evangelist Church is.....

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TOPICS: Current Events; Religion & Culture; Skeptics/Seekers
KEYWORDS: atheism; atheists

1 posted on 10/22/2013 7:51:32 PM PDT by marshmallow
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To: marshmallow
We’d like to take all of the good bits out of church, and leave the religious stuff behind.

Sure - what is this eternal life stuff next to self-esteem, anyway?

Somebody is really, really, really missing the point.

2 posted on 10/22/2013 7:54:05 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: marshmallow

Will they call it an ‘Olestra mass?’


3 posted on 10/22/2013 7:54:12 PM PDT by posterchild
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To: marshmallow

This is basically what civic organizations do.


4 posted on 10/22/2013 7:54:25 PM PDT by oldbrowser (The debt limit is the emergency brake on government spending)
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To: marshmallow

They’d better watch out. Someday, when they least expect it, the Holy Spirit might show up.


5 posted on 10/22/2013 7:55:26 PM PDT by married21 ( As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.)
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To: marshmallow

They have DEFILED this church! May they ALL be judged by the Almighty Lord.

Note: If your church is being used as a den of hatred against the Holy Father, it is no church.


6 posted on 10/22/2013 7:55:35 PM PDT by Viennacon
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To: marshmallow

If that church has a neck, God is carving a millstone.


8 posted on 10/22/2013 8:08:48 PM PDT by Anton.Rutter
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To: marshmallow

Atheism is a religion, they just worship the null and void. They have their church leaders and hierarchy and hold conclaves to set policy.


9 posted on 10/22/2013 8:30:02 PM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: marshmallow
I remember Madalyn Murray O'Hair, avowed atheist who single-handily forced prayer out of the classroom. She was universally reviled, and people worldwide would sent her Bibles in an attempt to save her but didn't have her exact address. Known to reside in Austin, Texas, the local Post Office would deliver hundreds of bibles sent to her every day, addressed simply "To That Damned Atheist, Austin, Texas. She was particularly angered by her son's conversion to Christianity.

She had a cable show in the late '80's that she hosted with her daughter and son-in-law. I was always struck by the abject vehemence in which she espoused her atheistic diatribes, castigating God and his flock of minions, any and all manner of organized religion, in rabid, foaming-at-the-mouth spasms of vituperative hatred. Watching her on her show at the way she'd go berserk just mentioning God's name as a source of freak entertainment, she always struck me as being incredibly agitated, had always wished I could tell her that she had a sense of overwrought zealousness when speaking of God that was every bit reminiscent of the religious fervor I'd say on Sunday religious programs.

What I saw in Madalyn Murray O'Hair on her show every week, was not the woman of principle who sought empiricism as the final word on the existence of God but a wild, overwrought, half-crazed women driven by irrational hate and venom in which she went about denying God.

Eventually, in 1995, she, her daughter and son-in law got caught up in some criminal scheme that had their bodies found in some shallow grave in Texas.

My point is, you've got to wonder what drives these atheists to create a Godless Church, sing, participate in Church activities that really has no purpose without a Supreme being and which has me realize, they are being relentlessly driven to practice their atheistic pretensions, which in the absence of believing in a God is being driven, by nothing but sheer hatred, venom and outright cynicism, trying, hoping to make a fool of God.

10 posted on 10/22/2013 8:42:48 PM PDT by lbryce (Obama:The Worst is Yet To Come)
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To: marshmallow

While they might not realize it, these people are begging to be ‘convinced’ that God is real, is Holy, and can be had through trusting in the Lord Jesus Christ.

They know deep down the emptiness in them longs to be satisfied by the only One who can do it.


11 posted on 10/22/2013 9:19:42 PM PDT by MichaelCorleone (Jesus Christ is not a religion. He's the Truth.)
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To: lbryce
Re: post 10

A little off topic but when Apollo 8 circled the moon for the first time, Astronaut Jim Lovell read from the Book of Genesis and broadcast all over the US. When they returned he learned he was being sued by some lady in Texas for daring to read from the Bible (Church and state nonsense).

Would you know if it happened to be the one you posted about, this Madalyn Murray O’Hair? The year was 1968 I believe.

12 posted on 10/22/2013 9:29:02 PM PDT by MichaelCorleone (Jesus Christ is not a religion. He's the Truth.)
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To: MichaelCorleone
Absolutely, positively. She had a brilliant mind, extremely eloquent, articulate with a bulldog demeanor, looked and sounded every bit like Ethel Merman.

With the Apollo 8 crew reading from the Book of Genesis, even though she hadn't a legal leg to stand on, nevertheless she made a lot of noise about it but had no legal basis in which to make a case.

The woman engendered tremendous hatred for forcing prayer out of school in the 1950's which was a time in which Christian customs, beliefs were deeply ingrained, practice widespread, and having prayer forced out of school was a terrible blow to their Christian sensibilities. O'hair's horrific death with that of her daughter and son-in-law seemed to be God's retribution for her terrible misdeeds.

13 posted on 10/22/2013 9:54:34 PM PDT by lbryce (Obama:The Worst is Yet To Come)
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To: MichaelCorleone

Actually, I think it was Frank Borman who did that reading.

O’Hair was a mean hateful woman mad at the world. She was eventually consumed by that hatred. If that is not proof of God, I don’t know what is.


14 posted on 10/22/2013 11:10:54 PM PDT by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: null and void
Ping

I see you're moving up in the world...

(See #9)

15 posted on 10/22/2013 11:51:27 PM PDT by NoCmpromiz (John 14:6 is a non-pluralistic comment.)
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To: Mastador1; null and void; moose07; TheOldLady; Monkey Face
Atheism is a religion, they just worship the null and void.

We just want to make him dictator of the English-speaking world.

16 posted on 10/23/2013 2:43:35 AM PDT by Tax-chick ("The heart of the matter is God's love. It always has been. It always will be."~Abp. Chaput)
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To: Tax-chick; Mastador1; null and void; TheOldLady; Monkey Face
We just want to make him (null and void) dictator of the English-speaking world.

After last nights essay: I have no problem with that. :)

17 posted on 10/23/2013 2:51:09 AM PDT by moose07 (the truth will out ,one day. This is not the post you are looking for ....move along now....)
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To: moose07; null and void; NoCmpromiz

I don’t agree with everything, but before he gets through all the stuff I *do* agree with, I’ll be dead.


18 posted on 10/23/2013 2:58:19 AM PDT by Tax-chick ("The heart of the matter is God's love. It always has been. It always will be."~Abp. Chaput)
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To: Billthedrill
We’d like to take all of the good bits out of church, and leave the religious stuff behind.

Problem is, most of church IS religious stuff. They're still using it. They're just thinking they're talking GOD out of it.

I say let them build their own building.

However, God is not mocked....

Philippians 1:12-18 I want you to know, brothers, that what has happened to me has really served to advance the gospel, so that it has become known throughout the whole imperial guard and to all the rest that my imprisonment is for Christ. And most of the brothers, having become confident in the Lord by my imprisonment, are much more bold to speak the word without fear.

Some indeed preach Christ from envy and rivalry, but others from good will. The latter do it out of love, knowing that I am put here for the defense of the gospel. The former proclaim Christ out of selfish ambition, not sincerely but thinking to afflict me in my imprisonment. What then? Only that in every way, whether in pretense or in truth, Christ is proclaimed, and in that I rejoice.

19 posted on 10/23/2013 5:32:34 AM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of faith....)
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To: Mastador1
Atheism is a religion, they just worship the null and void. They have their church leaders and hierarchy and hold conclaves to set policy.

You TOLD!

20 posted on 10/23/2013 7:15:01 AM PDT by null and void (I'm betting on an Obama Trifecta: A Nobel Peace Prize, an Impeachment, AND a War Crimes Trial...)
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To: Tax-chick; moose07; NoCmpromiz
Youse guys are making me *blush*
21 posted on 10/23/2013 7:16:25 AM PDT by null and void (I'm betting on an Obama Trifecta: A Nobel Peace Prize, an Impeachment, AND a War Crimes Trial...)
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To: Tax-chick; null and void

President! I said, “Nully for President!”

Not dictator of the English-speaking world!

WHAT HAVE I DONE????


22 posted on 10/23/2013 12:05:04 PM PDT by TheOldLady
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To: TheOldLady; Tax-chick; null and void
WHAT HAVE I DONE????

The Law of Unintended Consequences...

23 posted on 10/23/2013 12:38:50 PM PDT by NoCmpromiz (John 14:6 is a non-pluralistic comment.)
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To: TheOldLady; NoCmpromiz

Just took a good idea and made it better.


24 posted on 10/23/2013 12:49:36 PM PDT by Tax-chick ("The heart of the matter is God's love. It always has been. It always will be."~Abp. Chaput)
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To: Tax-chick; Mastador1; null and void; moose07; TheOldLady; Monkey Face

25 posted on 10/23/2013 12:59:56 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (In partibus infidelium.)
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To: Tax-chick; null and void

Oh, very well. I do think the world of Nully.


26 posted on 10/23/2013 2:29:32 PM PDT by TheOldLady
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To: TheOldLady; null and void
I do think the world of Nully.

Only the English-speaking world, though. Nobody's proposed making him Tzar of Russia yet.

27 posted on 10/23/2013 2:40:13 PM PDT by Tax-chick ("The heart of the matter is God's love. It always has been. It always will be."~Abp. Chaput)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Excellent! I have two large format books of Gahan Wilson cartoons, they are always a treat, in a twisted way.


28 posted on 10/23/2013 4:00:46 PM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: Tax-chick

Tsar of Russia? Aren’t we 96 years late for that? ;-)


29 posted on 10/23/2013 4:47:33 PM PDT by TheOldLady
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To: TheOldLady; Tax-chick
Tsar of Russia? Aren’t we 96 years late for that? ;-)

Just call Oglooma the _Resident. I hear he makes Tsars (and lots of 'em)...

30 posted on 10/23/2013 5:58:35 PM PDT by NoCmpromiz (John 14:6 is a non-pluralistic comment.)
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To: NoCmpromiz

That’s another hot button issue.

One petit tyrant in the president’s chair is more than enough, thank you very much.

We need to outlaw Czars in the FedGov.

And Tsars too, for that matter. ;-)


31 posted on 10/23/2013 6:20:16 PM PDT by TheOldLady
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To: posterchild

Exactly, an Olestra Mass at St. O’Doul’s. If they just went to a bar they would surely meet more interesting people.

Freegards


32 posted on 10/23/2013 6:31:09 PM PDT by Ransomed
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To: Ransomed

Like Olestra it would probably pass right through the attendees with no lasting impact.


33 posted on 10/23/2013 6:57:23 PM PDT by posterchild
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