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To: wideawake; All
Eck's issue was this: "Who has authority to interpret God's Word, the Church as a body or every man for himself?"

With the Council of Toulouse, the church had banned possession of either the Old or New Testaments including any translations. So Eck was arguing out of the side of his mouth.

ITEM #2 COUNCIL OF TOULOUSE - 1229 A.D.

"Canon 14. We prohibit also that the laity should be permitted to have the books of the Old or New Testament... we most strictly forbid their having any translation of these books."

So you see the church had banned Phylacteries for the Jewish People and stacked the deck against the common man.

It was clearly a time for Reformation back to the Word of God.

7 posted on 10/31/2013 4:05:58 PM PDT by sr4402
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To: sr4402

From http://forums.catholic.com/showthread.php?p=201060

Here is the WHOLE canon number 14 of the COUNCIL OF TOULOUSE (a local council, it appears, not ecumenical).

“14. Forbids the laity to have in their possession any copy of the books of the Old and New Testament (except the Psalter, and such portions of them as are contained in the Breviary, or the Hours of the blessed Virgin), most strictly forbids these works in the vulgar tongue.”

Landon, E. H. (1909). Vol. 2: A Manual of Councils of the Holy Catholic Church (172). Edinburgh: John Grant.

“So as you see it was not the possession of the whole bible but of SINGLE BOOKS of the bible that was prohibited, the psalter (i.e the psalms) was allowed. The creation of any of these books in the vulgar tongue was prohibited to prevent poor and heretical translations.”


8 posted on 10/31/2013 4:55:40 PM PDT by qwertyz
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To: sr4402
Looking at a list of ecumenical councils, we have:

  1. First Council of Nicaea (325)
  2. First Council of Constantinople (381)
  3. Council of Ephesus (431)
  4. Council of Chalcedon (451)
  5. Second Council of Constantinople (553)
  6. Third Council of Constantinople (680–681)
  7. Second Council of Nicaea (787)
  8. Fourth Council of Constantinople (869–870)
  9. First Council of the Lateran (1123)
  10. Second Council of the Lateran (1139)
  11. Third Council of the Lateran (1179)
  12. Fourth Council of the Lateran (1215)
  13. First Council of Lyon (1245)
  14. Second Council of Lyon (1274)
  15. Council of Vienne (1311–1312)
  16. Council of Constance (1414–1418)
  17. Council of Basel, Ferrara and Florence (1431–1445)
  18. Fifth Council of the Lateran (1512–1517)
  19. Council of Trent (1545–1563, with interruptions)
  20. First Council of the Vatican (1870)
  21. Second Council of the Vatican (1962–1965)


The Council of Toulouse is not on this list.
20 posted on 11/02/2013 9:55:10 AM PDT by ronnietherocket3 (Mary is understood by the heart, not study of scripture.)
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