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'Untrusting' Catholics rush to leave church
The Local ^ | 07 Nov 2013

Posted on 11/07/2013 8:06:41 AM PST by Alex Murphy

The number of Germans leaving the Catholic church as much as tripled in October. Trust among followers has plummeted after a major financial scandal, experts said on Thursday.

There has been a significant increase in people filling out paperwork at town halls to leave both the Catholic and Evangelical churches between September and October, new research suggested on Thursday.

The trend is, experts said, linked to the “bling Bishop” scandal, in which Catholic Bishop Franz-Peter Tebartz-van Elst was found to have spent millions of euros of church money on his own private house – including hundreds of thousands on cupboards alone.

Church officials are calling it the “Tebartz-effect”, with dioceses across the country reporting receiving letters from congregation members saying that they had lost faith in the church's handling of its finances. When a person leaves the church, they become exempt from church tax which is levied by the government.

A full, 65 percent of German Catholics consider their church less, or not at all, trustworthy, according to pollsters Forsa who recently conducted a survey.

In Cologne, 571 people officially left the Catholic church in October – twice the number who left in September. This was, city council spokesman Marcus Strunk said, the highest number in years.

Cologne's Evangelical church also saw an 80 percent rise in people leaving its pews in the same time frame – with 228 people unregistering. “People are queueing morning and evening,” at the council offices, said Strunk.

In Paderborn, also in North Rhine-Westphalia, the number of Catholics unregistering tripled on the month before. Osnabrück and Bremen also reported rising figures. As did councils across Bavaria, a largely Catholic state.

Bavariacapital Munich saw 1,250 people leave the Catholic church in October, more than twice the 602 who left in September. In Regensburg, Nuremberg and Passau the number tripled.

Religion sociologist Detlef Pollack from Münster University said this sudden jump was part of a trend that had been developing slowly for some time.

“The quality of living and level of education is so high [in Germany] that fewer people are turning to the spiritual support and social services of the church,” he said.


TOPICS: Catholic; Ministry/Outreach; Moral Issues; Worship
KEYWORDS: catholic; germany
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To: Salvation

>>When a person leaves the church, they become exempt from church tax which is levied by the government.<<

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Lived and worked in Germany in 1977 but I had to declare my religious affiliation for tax purposes.

I told them that I was an atheist (I am not), it was unacceptable. I still had to pay German taxes.


21 posted on 11/07/2013 9:37:05 AM PST by 353FMG
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To: count-your-change
So these former Catholics continue their search for God.
It's like searching for a way to quench your thirst, when you've turned your back on the only known body of water. Christ is living in the Eucharist; He's alive in the Blessed Sacrament. He patiently awaits.

http://www.justin.tv/marytown
22 posted on 11/07/2013 9:41:01 AM PST by mlizzy (If people spent an hour a week in Eucharistic adoration, abortion would be ended. --Mother Teresa)
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To: Alex Murphy

Why don’t you find an article on islam or jews?


23 posted on 11/07/2013 9:49:30 AM PST by Blue Turtle
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To: mlizzy

Where are the anti-christian articles then?


24 posted on 11/07/2013 9:50:20 AM PST by Blue Turtle
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To: Salvation
"LOL! at the reporter who wrote that. No paperwork needs to be filled out at a town hall."

I don't know about German law, but what you state makes sense. Can't help smile on that one too! :-)

25 posted on 11/07/2013 10:02:55 AM PST by celmak
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To: mlizzy

The Christ of the Bible didn’t wait patiently, he was the shepherd who left the 99 sheep to search for the one.

Eat some crackers and sup some wine but Catholicism has failed to meet the criteria Jesus gave and failed over and again.


26 posted on 11/07/2013 10:03:31 AM PST by count-your-change (you don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough)
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To: mlizzy
It's like searching for a way to quench your thirst, when you've turned your back on the only known body of water.

"Our Hearts are Restless Until They Rest in You" ... St. Augustine

27 posted on 11/07/2013 10:10:49 AM PST by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: count-your-change

Jesus didn’t “give criteria”; he founded a Church. Would you prefer his own handiwork, or something built by men to fit, according to their own reckoning, Jesus’ “criteria”.


28 posted on 11/07/2013 11:10:14 AM PST by Campion ("Social justice" begins in the womb)
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To: Servant of the Cross

29 posted on 11/07/2013 12:30:42 PM PST by BlueDragon
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To: Campion

It’s a simple English word so there should be no difficulty understanding it, if there is just say so.


30 posted on 11/07/2013 12:47:51 PM PST by count-your-change (you don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough)
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To: count-your-change

No doubt, but that avoids the issue.


31 posted on 11/07/2013 1:17:29 PM PST by Campion ("Social justice" begins in the womb)
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To: count-your-change

If Catholics were eating crackers at Mass (instead of the Eucharist, the True Body of Christ), the Church would all but disappear.


32 posted on 11/07/2013 1:34:51 PM PST by mlizzy (If people spent an hour a week in Eucharistic adoration, abortion would be ended. --Mother Teresa)
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To: Servant of the Cross

Thank you for that link! Christ gives us His saints, so that we may continue to learn; it’s a shame non-Catholic faiths do not see that.


33 posted on 11/07/2013 2:22:29 PM PST by mlizzy (If people spent an hour a week in Eucharistic adoration, abortion would be ended. --Mother Teresa)
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To: mlizzy
If Catholics were eating crackers at Mass (instead of the Eucharist, the True Body of Christ), the Church would all but disappear.

So very true. Even Martin Luther believed in the Real Presence of Christ in the Eucharist.

34 posted on 11/07/2013 2:29:32 PM PST by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: mlizzy
It's like searching for a way to quench your thirst, when you've turned your back on the only known body of water. Christ is living in the Eucharist; He's alive in the Blessed Sacrament. He patiently awaits.

I tried your Eucharist, a couple of times...There wasn't anything there...

And since a majority of Catholics do not believe in the real presence in the Eucharist, they know from personal experience that there is nothing there as well...

Your phrase, 'the only known body of water' is a deception...I know that from eating the wafer (1), and actually being indwelt with the Holy Spirit (2) without the wafer...But heh, good sales pitch...

35 posted on 11/07/2013 2:51:42 PM PST by Iscool
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To: Iscool

Glad you admitted that you disregarded a Church teaching. Why are Protestants so disrespectful and intolerant?


36 posted on 11/07/2013 2:58:43 PM PST by HawkHogan
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To: Iscool

There is no benefit in receiving the Eucharist, if the one receiving doesn’t believe. That’s why there are so many lukewarm Catholics, the scourge of the earth.


37 posted on 11/07/2013 3:05:11 PM PST by mlizzy (If people spent an hour a week in Eucharistic adoration, abortion would be ended. --Mother Teresa)
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To: mlizzy

Nope. Jesus said wheat and weeds would grow together until the harvest.


38 posted on 11/07/2013 3:50:13 PM PST by count-your-change (you don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough)
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