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An open letter to Pope Francis
Renew America ^ | November 10, 2013 | Randy Engel

Posted on 11/11/2013 5:13:32 PM PST by ebb tide

Your Holiness,

It's difficult to know how or where to begin this Open Letter on the necessity of establishing a Papal Commission of Inquiry into Homosexuality, Pederasty, and the "Gay Lobby" in the Catholic Church. But since I must begin somewhere let me start with Question 21 posed to you by Brazilian journalist, Ilze Scamparini, during your first press conference of July 28, 2013 aboard the papal aircraft on route to Rome from World Youth Day in Rio,

Here is the reported dialogue between you and Scamparini which touches upon the key topics of this missive:

(Excerpt) Read more at renewamerica.com ...


TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; Moral Issues; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: francis; gaylobby; sin; sodomy

1 posted on 11/11/2013 5:13:32 PM PST by ebb tide
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To: ebb tide

There is a lot that I admire about Randy Engel. However, the bulk of her complaint is the Holy Father’s use of the word “gay”. I suspect that he was interviewed in either Spanish or Italian, so I would prefer someone who is fluent in the original language, with access to the original interview, did the word parsing.


2 posted on 11/11/2013 5:19:48 PM PST by Dr. Sivana (There's no salvation in politics.)
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To: Dr. Sivana

Did you read the entire article?


3 posted on 11/11/2013 5:26:06 PM PST by ebb tide
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To: ebb tide

Really, really smart: Finish up your Open Letter to the Pope by accusing him of being a sexual pervert!


4 posted on 11/11/2013 6:27:52 PM PST by Arthur McGowan
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To: Arthur McGowan
Archbishop Bergoglio said:

I see it as a body that gives service, a body that helps me and serves me. Sometimes negative news does come out, but it is often exaggerated and manipulated to spread scandal. Journalists sometimes risk becoming ill from coprophilia and thus fomenting coprophagia: which is a sin that taints all men and women, that is, the tendency to focus on the negative rather than the positive aspects. The Roman Curia has its down sides, but I think that too much emphasis is placed on its negative aspects and not enough on the holiness of the numerous consecrated and lay people who work in it.

Take it up with the Bishop of Rome.

5 posted on 11/11/2013 6:38:22 PM PST by ebb tide
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To: ebb tide

Very good. Something for all of us to learn - it’s not gaiety, it’s pederasty. Use the perverts’ language and you’ve lost the debate before it started.


6 posted on 11/11/2013 6:45:57 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: ebb tide

I read what he said. And I think it’s pretty strange.

But Engel treats it like proof positive that he’s a pervert.]

Just as, at the end of her book THE RITE OF SODOMY, she accused Benedict XVI of being a homosexual because of a red hat and his red shoes.


7 posted on 11/11/2013 6:57:48 PM PST by Arthur McGowan
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To: Arthur McGowan

Well, I happen to think anybody who talks about such filthy subjects could very well be a pervert. But, to paraphrase the Pope, “Who am I to judge?”


8 posted on 11/11/2013 7:19:59 PM PST by ebb tide
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To: Dr. Sivana
...the Holy Father’s use of the word “gay”. I suspect that he was interviewed in either Spanish or Italian

I looked at the original language transcript of the interview back when it first came out. I suspected they used the word "gay" in the English translation, and that his actual quote used some other Spanish or Italian word.

He did not. He used the word "gay" in the original.

What that means is beyond our place to judge though.

9 posted on 11/11/2013 8:08:55 PM PST by Brian Kopp DPM
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To: Arthur McGowan
at the end of her book THE RITE OF SODOMY, she accused Benedict XVI of being a homosexual because of a red hat and his red shoes.

Thanks for bringing this to our attention. That certainly undermines her credibility IMO. Pope BXVI did more behind the scenes to clean up this rot than any churchman in the last 40 years.

10 posted on 11/11/2013 8:11:35 PM PST by Brian Kopp DPM
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To: ebb tide

Sometimes referring to poop fetish and poop eating is perverse. Sometimes it’s exactly the image you were looking for. As a description of so much modern journalism, it’s exactly the image you were looking for. Well-said, Your Eminence (now Your Holiness). Precisely. I couldn’t have put it better myself.


11 posted on 11/11/2013 8:16:27 PM PST by RichInOC (Palin 2016: The Perfect Storm.)
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To: Brian Kopp DPM

http://www.ewtn.com/vexperts/showmessage.asp?number=521453

She is good at one thing; slamming the Catholic Church. She has written books blasting JP2, B16 and now Francis. I’m sure if I research this anti-Catholic enough I’ll find a book somewhere where she lowers the boom on Jesus. As for the Popes she thinks all were sodomites. This woman has a sick obsession with homosexuality.


12 posted on 11/11/2013 9:24:49 PM PST by NKP_Vet
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To: ebb tide

2 Peter 2
1
But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.

2
And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of.

3
And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not.

4
For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment;

5
And spared not the old world, but saved Noah the eighth person, a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood upon the world of the ungodly;

6
And turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrha into ashes condemned them with an overthrow, making them an ensample unto those that after should live ungodly;


The above shows what the Apostle peter thought of all of this and in verse 12 he says

12
But these, as natural brute beasts, made to be taken and destroyed, speak evil of the things that they understand not; and shall utterly perish in their own corruption;

they with feigned words make merchandise of you:

Peter would have none of this, he used his own words.

The Catholic Church tells the world that their Pope is the successor to the apostle Peter but the pope is not as plain spoken as Peter was.

Even though Peter,s words were spoken nearly two thousand years ago they are pretty plain to most of us now, but something the Pope spoke of only yesterday is about as clear as mud.

If the Catholic Church wants the world to believe they are the successors of Christs Church then they should continue as they are.

But if they want Gods people to believe it then they should start preaching the Bible as St Peter would preach it.


13 posted on 11/12/2013 7:21:25 AM PST by ravenwolf
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To: Brian Kopp DPM

She does some great research, but she’s unbalanced. As in her book, and as in this “open letter,” she gets on a roll, and the destination of her “roll” is—EVERYBODY’s a homosexual.


14 posted on 11/12/2013 5:02:53 PM PST by Arthur McGowan
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To: RichInOC
Sometimes referring to poop fetish and poop eating is perverse..

It's always perverse, especially for a religious to do so in public.

15 posted on 11/12/2013 5:13:17 PM PST by ebb tide
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