Posted on 11/17/2013 7:49:23 AM PST by CHRISTIAN DIARIST
Amen! I "call" being the shepherd for the various flocks in the fields:) After such a busy and noisy life here, give me the solitude of sitting out there with the Lord's flocks.
The Quranic heaven is just as you describe.
If heaven has a “Beverley Hills” section and also the slums, then heaven won’t be free from envy. If there is no envy in heaven, then there is nothing special about a “Beverley Hills” section, and if so, then there is nothing special about your “rewards”.
The comment about Paul was a poke in the eye to Evangelicals. Roman Catholics know they can’t declare Paul a heretic because they “canonized” him as a saint centuries ago. But those epistles just seem to get in the way of their Roman tradtion of works based salvation.
So some have to use the “What did Jesus say?” statement to dismiss the remainder of the Gospels. It is great to note they never say “What did Jesus DO—Actions?” If we put together what Jesus Christ said and DID (crucified, died, buried, Risen from the dead now seated at the Right Hand of the Father), then Paul makes a lot more sense.
We are doomed to failure if we do not read the Gospels in the Light of the Cross and Empty Tomb. We take away those ACTIONS, then we are left with Sinai II the Law more perfectly spoken and lived by God Himself coming in the flesh. But Jesus Christ Truly God and Truly man DID shed His Blood for us and DID rise again from the dead three days later. And that is the “hermeneutic” Paul uses in his epistles.
“There are many mansions in my Father’s house.”
Sir, you perhaps are in error on this. Who ever said to have faith in Paul over Jesus Christ. No one.
It seems you may have words to enlighten us. Your post said “that you may think you are believing what Jesus said.”
I take that as you know what Jesus said and know what He meant. I am not reading minds, just trying to see if you can enlighten us further on your comments.
**Salvation is free to all.**
OSAS is a falsehood.
**Salvation is free to all.**
But not all people want to be saved. They like their lives of wickedness and atheism.
Sir, the above is error. I know the Qur'an quite adequately. There is only one "reward" guaranteed and that is dying for jihad. Everyone else must "sweat it out" in their theology and hope allah is having a good day.
If you cannot trust the messenger, you cannot trust the message.
No, you have to accept the gift. But that is all you need to do to be saved.
To move out of the slums, more is required of the Christian.
And as I said, there are those you either don’t bother accept the gift of salvation, or positively reject it. They will not wind up in heaven.
Sir, have your read the Gospels and the Acts and the epistles? If so, what is the unifying agent for all NT writings?
And God will wipe away every tear from their eyes; there shall be no more death, nor sorrow, nor crying. There shall be no more pain, for the former things have passed away.”
Or perhaps Sir you reached this thread in error and were seeking the atheist and alien abduction thread?
Here is a serious question:
Suppose Bob personally evangelizes and brings 10 people to Christ in his hometown. And suppose his brother Sam funds the distribution of 100 Bibles thru an evangelical charity that will, therefore, bring an additional 1000 people to Christ in China.
Who will have the greater Reward? Bob or Sam?
Is it now?
I don’t actually recall that I mentioned it, but I would refer you to John 6:37-40, and also 47.
If a man has everlasting life, but loses it, did he ever have “everlasting” life to begin with?
However, I’m not God’s private secretary, nor are you. You could well be right, but I’m not worried about it personally. I don’t intend to reject God.
You have yet to contradict what I said with logical arguments. When you do, I’ll respond.
What does OSAS have to do with "Salvation is free to all."?
Is not Salvation a Gift from God in the Person of His Son Jesus Christ Truly God and Truly man? Did not Jesus pay that price? Did not Jesus say if He sets us free we are free indeed?
OSAS has no bearing on this conversation.
**I don’t intend to reject God.**
So glad to hear that you are not rejecting the transubstantiation of the bread and wine to the Body and Blood of Christ.
Thank you.
So glad you are not receiving the Eucharist.
Well, I disagree.
The Parable of the talents argues against it, for one.
Not for us to judge, is it?
Did it come from a Catholic, though? There are a number of persons I've read or read about that are very down on “Pauline” Christianity, preferring some kind of Gnostic, or sometimes “Petrine” version.
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