[Elsie]

Your Logic 101 grade appears to have been rated WAY too high.

... we at least agree that people who believe Mary is dead believe Christ lied to the thief on the cross...

[Rashputin]

Sure, sure, avoid the fact that someone who claims "Mary is still dead" cannot do so unless they believe Christ lied to the thief on the cross and avoid the fact that the only way Luther and others who refuse to accept the entire Bible can be right to throw books of the OT in the garbage is if the Holy Spirit cannot and did not protect the Word of God from the inclusion of error.

The thing that's really important is yet another Self and Self Alone opinion, this time about the intellect of someone who you quite obviously cannot possibly contradict.

What a fine proof that those who deny the power of the Holy Spirit by only accepting the anti-Christ Pharisee Approved Luther Subset of Scripture are being led by the powerless spirit of their own Most High and Holy Self rather than the Holy Spirit Christ promised would guide those who follow Him.