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To: knarf
And Scripture says there is more that was passed around person to person, face to face.

John 21

 

24 This is the disciple who is bearing witness to these things, and who has written these things; and we know that his testimony is true.

25 But there are also many other things which Jesus did; were every one of them to be written, I suppose that the world itself could not contain the books that would be written.


18 posted on 11/21/2013 8:48:10 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

Yeah, so ... I saw you wearing that goofy bow tie at the speech you gave, everybody laughed .. but what was important was your message.


19 posted on 11/21/2013 8:56:07 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true .. I have no proof .. but they're true.)
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To: Salvation; knarf; Gamecock
But there are also many other things which Jesus did; were every one of them to be written, I suppose that the world itself could not contain the books that would be written.

Who wrote the others? Are they inspired of the Holy Spirit? Does the Catholic Church claim to have them in their possession? Why did the Catholic Church not make them a part of the NT Canon?

21 posted on 11/21/2013 9:31:52 AM PST by Alex Murphy ("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
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To: Salvation; Alex Murphy
And the Holy Spirit superintended having the writting down of exactly what we need to know!
22 posted on 11/21/2013 9:37:06 AM PST by Gamecock (If you like your constitution, you can keep your constitution. Period. (M.S.))
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To: Salvation
25 But there are also many other things which Jesus did; were every one of them to be written, I suppose that the world itself could not contain the books that would be written.

I am comfortable making the assumption that the Holy Spirit conveyed exactly what the Lord wanted conveyed in the Bible. After all, there isn't much point in writing a book and leaving out the important parts of the story.

To believe that God deliberately only told us part of the story so that we, 2000 years later, would be reliant on the traditions of men--while simultaneously criticing the same in the Pharisees-- is less respectful toward the Spirit than I care to be.

24 posted on 11/21/2013 10:13:20 AM PST by Dianna
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To: Salvation
And Scripture says there is more that was passed around person to person, face to face.

The John 21:24,25 verses speak of volume. As in telescoping (which was a history recording technique of the time). In using telescoping, samples are taken of a greater whole true events/actions. John is not saying there is something important he left out. He is telling us today there were more miracles, sermons, conversations but what is really important is all recorded here. And he tells us that here in John 20:

30 Therefore many other signs Jesus also performed in the presence of the disciples, which are not written in this book; 31 but these have been written so that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing you may have life in His name.

35 posted on 11/21/2013 2:17:04 PM PST by redleghunter
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To: Salvation
25 But there are also many other things which Jesus did; were every one of them to be written, I suppose that the world itself could not contain the books that would be written.

And not a single one of them adds anything to our required knowledge of salvation...So, they are not relevant to the church...

58 posted on 11/21/2013 8:28:18 PM PST by Iscool
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To: Salvation; knarf; Alex Murphy
And Scripture says there is more that was passed around person to person, face to face.

But there are also many other things which Jesus did; were every one of them to be written, I suppose that the world itself could not contain the books that would be written. (John 21:25)

Not according to THAT Scripture verse. Notice that it says many things Jesus "did", not many things Jesus "taught". That is significant in light of what John said BEFORE this in John 20:30,31

Jesus performed many other signs in the presence of his disciples, which are not recorded in this book. But these are written that you may believe that Jesus is the Messiah, the Son of God, and that by believing you may have life in his name.

Many religions want to add to the body of Divinely-inspired Scripture things that they believe the Apostles taught, things they call "Traditions", but we should remember that we have IN Holy Scripture all that God wants us to know to have life in Christ's name by believing in Him and that, through Scripture, we can be thoroughly furnished and complete unto all good works. Nothing wrong with traditions, but any that conflict with Scripture should be rejected along with any that add to what God says is needed so that we might believe and have life through Christ.

97 posted on 11/22/2013 10:44:52 PM PST by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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