Posted on 11/25/2013 9:03:35 AM PST by Laissez-faire capitalist
Which one(s) do not ?
ALL scripture is given ..... snip ..... for instruction in righteousness.
Indeed, that’s a good indicator, because the main point is to not take leave of your senses, which you would have to in order for Obama to make sense.
The cool thing about Christianity is that it is a “spirit of the law” rather than “letter of the law” sort of thing.
They didn’t have breathalizer’s back then. I’ll add that you know when you are “drunk” vs slightly feeling it. I figure it is somewhere between the two but towards the latter. It’s also a frame of mind. If you are feeling it, do you down another couple shots of tequila? And, frankly, why are you doing shots in the first place when the only reason for them is getting drunk?
I like to sip bourbon, scotch, tequila and even good vodka. But I limit myself to a shot an hour.
“The prayer of a righteous man is powerful and effective” James 5:16
Do not mix or confuse righteous living with salvation which is the free gift of God.
As far as alcohol is concerned, Jesus turned the water into wine... and yet taught against ANY excess.... not just alcohol.
Gluttony is a sin too... so how fat do you have to be before your salvation is in question?
Righteous living empowers your prayer life.
Addiction is addiction... regardless of how much it takes to get your “fix”.
From personal experience, the third tequila shot.
Wow, seems to me you are conflating a number of issues.
First, the issue of adult beverages.
Second, the issue of once saved, always saved, really EVER saved, etc.
Third, church fellowhip, etc.
On the first, I would say that the “first miracle” more or less does away with any idea that teetotaling is scriptural.
On the second, I mean, it is a heart thing, and who are we to know about others?
On the third, a totally different deal altogether.
When the mother of Jesus said “Son, they have no wine”, at the Cana wedding feast, did He reply,
“Mom, it’s good thing they ran out before there’s too much drunkenness. I wouldn’t contribute to making the situation any worse.”
Instead, Jesus willed His first miracle recorded in Scripture, and when the chief steward tasted the water changed to wine, he called the bridegroom over & criticized his saving the best wine for last when the guests were too inebriated to taste the difference.
At the Last Supper, Jesus took the cup filled with wine and gave thanks........
Kinda difficult to insist that it was all only grape juice.
there are quite a few Christians-
That interpret -that indeed it WAS all Grape juice-
nothing was fermented.
just sayin...
Good and appropriate answer.
POTD! LOL!
When it causes an inability to serve others and oneself according to the will of God.
>>> Good and appropriate answer.
Thanks... now if I could just stop smoking... ;)
Yes - it is obvious from the text that some drinking of “wine” is a given. IMHO, it boils down to the question of where is your heart (what gives you pleasure)?
Imagine dying of thirst in the desert and you find a cool clear well. But then instead of drinking deeply, you grab a nearby spade and dig and scratch in the dirt, trying to suck some life-giving moisture of of the dry dust. This what God calls EVIL:
“...for my people have committed two evils: they have forsaken me, the fountain of living waters, and hewed out cisterns for themselves, broken cisterns that can hold no water.” Jeremiah 2:13
I thinks C.S. Lewis put it best:
“It would seem that Our Lord finds our desires not too strong, but too weak. We are half-hearted creatures, fooling about with drink and sex and ambition when infinite joy is offered us, like an ignorant child who wants to go on making mud pies in a slum because he cannot imagine what is meant by the offer of a holiday at the sea. We are far too easily pleased.” C.S. Lewis, The Weight of Glory.
(FR needs an ‘edit’ button 8^)
When you stop being a happy drunk.
And they are wrong, and normally among the most pharisaical among us…..
12-18 yo single malt…..in small, slow amounts…..
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