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To: wideawake

1. He condemns capitalism in general. The only thing that has brought us real end to poverty is competition and free markets - UNFETTERED competition and free markets, not the regulated crap in Europe.

2. The Pope offers NO solutions to any of the problems. He surely points out what he sees to be the problem: free markets. What do you have instead of free markets? Please explain Rome’s “Third Way,” which is nothing but the socialism that has already failed Europe.

3. He condemns “welfare mentality” but goes on to parrot ridiculous memes on “wealth redistribution.” Wealth redistribution is THE ULTIMATE in the welfare mentality. How can he say, “well, I don’t like the welfare mentality, but welfare for all!” and be seen as internally consistent.


34 posted on 11/26/2013 6:06:06 AM PST by cizinec ("Brother, your best friend ain't your Momma, it's the Field Artillery.")
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To: cizinec

Pretty hard to reconcile

“wealth should be redistributed”

with

“thou shall not steal” and “thou shall not covet”


35 posted on 11/26/2013 6:08:09 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: cizinec
He condemns capitalism in general.

Wrong.

The Pope offers NO solutions to any of the problems.

Wrong again.

The solution is, as always, conversion and almsgiving. The Gospel solution.

He condemns “welfare mentality” but goes on to parrot ridiculous memes on “wealth redistribution.”

So generous people voluntarily helping the poor are the same as people who think they are entitled to other people's money?

43 posted on 11/26/2013 6:16:03 AM PST by wideawake
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To: cizinec

**1. He condemns capitalism in general.**

I doubt that he actually said this. Remember this source is like the Slimes or the WaPo


71 posted on 11/26/2013 6:57:25 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: cizinec; Alex Murphy; Greetings_Puny_Humans; HarleyD; Springfield Reformer; Lera; CynicalBear; ...
The Pope offers NO solutions to any of the problems. He surely points out what he sees to be the problem: free markets. What do you have instead of free markets? Please explain Rome’s “Third Way,” which is nothing but the socialism that has already failed Europe.

But when Rome does, it can sound rather dangerous and socialistic:

http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/benedict_xvi/encyclicals/documents/hf_ben-xvi_enc_20090629_caritas-in-veritate_en.html

ENCYCLICAL LETTER CARITAS IN VERITATE 67. To manage the global economy; to revive economies hit by the crisis; to avoid any deterioration of the present crisis and the greater imbalances that would result; to bring about integral and timely disarmament, food security and peace; to guarantee the protection of the environment and to regulate migration: for all this, there is urgent need of a true world political authority, as my predecessor Blessed John XXIII indicated some years ago. Such an authority would need to be regulated by law, to observe consistently the principles of subsidiarity and solidarity [ambiguous], to seek to establish the common good, and to make a commitment to securing authentic [another favorite ambiguous word] integral human development inspired by the values of charity in truth.

. Furthermore, such an authority would need to be universally recognized and to be vested with the effective power to ensure security for all, regard for justice, and respect for rights. Obviously it would have to have the authority to ensure compliance with its decisions from all parties , and also with the coordinated measures adopted in various international forums.

VATICAN CITY (CNS) — Pope Benedict XVI and other church leaders said it was the moral responsibility of nations to guarantee access to health care for all of their citizens, regardless of social and economic status or their ability to pay.

Governments are obligated, therefore, to adopt the proper legislative, administrative and financial measures to provide such care along with other basic conditions that promote good health, such as food security, water and housing, the cardinal said. - http://www.catholicnews.com/data/stories/cns/1004736.htm

Both are sufficiently ambiguous to support socialism under the liberal elite, with teeth to enforce it.

93 posted on 11/26/2013 10:05:16 AM PST by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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