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Rush Limbaugh Doesn't Get Pope Francis
Catholic Answers ^ | December 4, 2013 | Trent Horn

Posted on 12/05/2013 6:26:41 AM PST by NYer

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To: C. Edmund Wright

No one is JUST another human being. We are all created by God in His image and likeness. THAT is what I believe. What do you believe?


181 posted on 12/05/2013 3:11:45 PM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo....Sum Pro Vita - Modified Descartes)
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To: steelhead_trout

We are talking in the context of illegals yes? Yes, the subject was about amnesty and Ronald Reagan. So my statements still stand with respect to the subject of illegals. Ronald Reagan did not live to see the gross failure by the federal government to control the border.

There have almost always been legal Hispanic-Americans that have averaged around 4% to 5% of the American population.

See Slide 5:
http://www.census.gov/newsroom/cspan/hispanic/2012.06.22_cspan_hispanics.pdf

And African Americans have always averaged around 13%. Blacks were always the largest minority group until the 2000s when Latinos became the largest minority group.

Certainly Ronald Reagan’s immigration reform was a factor in the growth of the hispanic population but much of it can be attributed to the chain immigration policy of the Kennedy immigration reform of 1965.

It matters not so much now because the economy in the USA is so sick that many illegals have returned to Mexico, at least those that were seeking work. But those who did not intend to work and learned how to game the social safety nets have kept coming and they are the ones that democrats want to cultivate as democrat voters.


182 posted on 12/05/2013 3:28:39 PM PST by Hostage (Be Breitbart!)
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To: NYer
1) Bear in mind that the original is in Latin. Everything else is a translation and there can be little differences from translation to translation.

2) I doubt many would object to the document if the Cold War were still going on. Plenty of alternatives to Communism were considered acceptable to prevent the Communists from taking over. Now that the Soviets are gone there's a tendency to assume that everything that falls short of thoroughgoing laissez-faire is socialist or Marxist.

3) It also has a lot to do with cultural politics in the world of countries like Italy or Spain. True and strong believers in the free market tended to be members of secular liberal parties hostile to the Catholic church. So there was a limit to how much clerics could praise the unfettered workings of free markets alone. It also may have to do with the crony capitalism of countries like Argentina.

4) I'm not clear how seriously to take objections to extreme laissez-faire. As some have pointed out, such a thing doesn't really exist. If you object to it, are your objections merely formal objections to a theory that has never actually been put into effect, or are they real efforts to get as far away from that side of the political debate as you possibly can? It's not always clear.

183 posted on 12/05/2013 4:08:36 PM PST by x
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To: beandog

What Kennedy had more than one divorce?????????


184 posted on 12/05/2013 4:18:35 PM PST by NKP_Vet (God Bless Pope Francis)
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To: rockrr

No. What’s RR have to do with the current discussion? >>

He wasn’t catholic and did support amnesty for illegal aliens. re: post 14.


185 posted on 12/05/2013 4:25:32 PM PST by Coleus (Vivat Jesus)
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To: Partisan Gunslinger

That democrat politician is more conservative than most republicans. Why she remains in the democrat party is beyond me. Read her article. She blasts both parties.


186 posted on 12/05/2013 4:25:57 PM PST by NKP_Vet (God Bless Pope Francis)
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To: Coleus

So did Ernest Shilling of Piedmont Texas. Again, so what?


187 posted on 12/05/2013 4:44:56 PM PST by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: NKP_Vet

Is 1 divorce okay? How about 2?. How many is too many?


188 posted on 12/05/2013 4:49:51 PM PST by beandog (All Aboard the Choo Choo Train to Crazy Town)
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To: beandog

No divorce is OK. Read your Bible.


189 posted on 12/05/2013 5:29:46 PM PST by NKP_Vet
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To: SumProVita

I think you worship a church and not a Savior, and I think this causes a lot of problems with your processor .


190 posted on 12/05/2013 5:57:07 PM PST by C. Edmund Wright (Tokyo Rove is more than a name, it's a GREAT WEBSITE)
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To: NKP_Vet

Jesus hated the pharisaical spirit more than divorce….

Just sayin….


191 posted on 12/05/2013 5:57:52 PM PST by C. Edmund Wright (Tokyo Rove is more than a name, it's a GREAT WEBSITE)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

Pure ad hominem. Sad.

May God bless you with His Goodness.


192 posted on 12/06/2013 6:16:23 AM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo....Sum Pro Vita - Modified Descartes)
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To: SumProVita

Pure Pharisee. Even sadder. (and no, it was not ad hominem. It was harsh, but accurate.)


193 posted on 12/06/2013 6:20:01 AM PST by C. Edmund Wright (Tokyo Rove is more than a name, it's a GREAT WEBSITE)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

It was indeed ad hominem....as was your pharisee remark.

Thus, I see no reason to continue with one who is similar to:

http://www.politicsforum.org/images/flame_warriors/flame_20.php


194 posted on 12/06/2013 7:01:53 AM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo....Sum Pro Vita - Modified Descartes)
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To: NKP_Vet
Why she remains in the democrat party is beyond me.

Some are more subtle than others. When it matters most they will tear you to pieces. Never trust a double-minded person.

195 posted on 12/06/2013 7:56:49 AM PST by Partisan Gunslinger
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To: SumProVita
The person who led you to believe that being disingenuous is the same as being clever ill-served you.
196 posted on 12/06/2013 8:01:16 AM PST by Trentamj
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To: Trentamj

Actually, I’ve never believed any such thing.


197 posted on 12/06/2013 9:25:50 AM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo....Sum Pro Vita - Modified Descartes)
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