Posted on 12/05/2013 6:26:41 AM PST by NYer
Not holding my breath but Limbaugh owes an apology to his audience.
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Actually, when Rush has the facts he usually does apologize.
Eventually, he will get the facts on this...at least I pray so.
;-)
You get dumber with each post. The Tony Alamo post is beneath the bottom of the barrell, morally, ethically, but more to the point, totally intellectually vacant and vapid.
Thank you for respectful and thoughtful response…..but…..what are the "facts" he has not gotten yet?
Pick the most idiotic post in this thread, and I’ll pick my nominee, and let’s compare notes.
The Pope confuses Charity with the socialist redistribution of wealth.
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Huh? What did he say that made you think so?
If you can’t see that this confusion has been a major problem inside many Churches, including the Catholic Church, then you are not paying close enough attention.
Some people continue to defend trickle-down theories which assume that economic growth, encouraged by a free market, will inevitably succeed in bringing about greater justice and inclusiveness in the world.
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Incorrect translation. Should be:
Some people continue to defend trickle-down theories which assume that economic growth, encouraged by a free market, will BY ITSELF succeed in bringing about greater justice and inclusiveness in the world.
Pope was showing that an economic policy by itself will not cause the necessary change because there IS a spiritual dimension that is often avoided.
Because he isn’t saying anything that I want or need to hear.
The pope isn’t a politician, and doesn’t need to speak about political systems or philosophies.
He needs to speak about Jesus Christ.
“The pope isn’t a politician, and doesn’t need to speak about political systems or philosophies.
He needs to speak about Jesus Christ.
Your comment at #14 elicited the question about Reagan who supported and signed Simpson-Mazzolli, the vast “immigration reform” bill.
seems a ceaser issue not a pope issue.
Hear! Hear!
The first thing to address would be to ask what was Rush’s source of information? The second question would be whether or not he has he followed up on this issue....since there have been much good discussion clarifying it.
I’m sorry, but I cannot connect to Pope Francis.
He isn’t reaching me, he’s pushing me away.
I don’t want to hear anything more from the left, regardless of who they are or the position they hold.
You are correct. He strikes me the same way.
I am quite aware of the influence of liberal thinkers in all areas of religion...but what does that have to do with the post to which you refer?
Reagan may be a Conservative icon, but he was not perfect.
The Pope isn’t Marxist and he isn’t Capitalist. He’s the Pope. I don’t know why that’s so difficult.
He (the Pope) is saying we shouldn’t put our ultimate trust in any economic system, “capitalism” or “communism” or anything in-between. The ultimate hope for all humanity doesn’t lie in anything man creates on his own. It lies in Jesus.
This is the Gospel. This is what the encyclical is about (the Gospel). And it (the encyclical) is about how the Gospel message is spread.
It’s not spread through communism.
It’s not spread through capitalism.
Again, we shouldn’t put our trust in either system to truly lift anyone up, not in the way that really helps anyone.
Put another way: No one can argue that capitalism is by far the most successful economic system for lifting people out of economic poverty. But at the end if the day, do you really believe anyone is “helped” by just having more money? Sure it’s part of helping people to give them the means to make enough money to live with dignity. But this isn’t what is ENTIRELY meant by “helping the poor”.
And this is the danger His Holiness is taking about. Putting our trust in a system, any system really, to “help” the poor, when at the end of the day all that has been done is to “help” them financially.
The Gospel isn’t about how to make money. It’s about how we are saved and how we can and do become a new and better creation through Jesus Christ.
That’s all the Pope is saying. Anyone (including Rush) who reads more into it than that is, I would submit, probably feeling (rightfully) guilty deep down inside that they aren’t really doing anything to help the poor. No matter how much money given to a charity.
The Pope should be talking less about the “system” and more about encouraging people under whatever system to be more charitable on a personal level.
Of course, under capitalism, more abundance always exists which gives the generous more wealth to be generous with.
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