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To: 2ndDivisionVet

What Fox News (and all the others) don’t get is that Pope Francis, when he speaks (or writes) ... he is speaking universally ... not just about the USA. They don’t get that.

It would do anyone interested in this topic good to actually read what the pope wrote - in context. Word for word ... beginning to end. Draw your own conclusions, not what some talking head on TV says.

I haven’t read this document front to back yet, but I do plan to. That’s the only way to completely understand what the pope is saying.


9 posted on 12/05/2013 9:19:42 AM PST by al_c (Obama's standing in the world has fallen so much that Kenya now claims he was born in America.)
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To: al_c

i see what you are saying, but WHY? why is this necessary now, with this Pope? why does he obfuscate his message so that there are myriad interpretations? What is to be gained from it? There was no such confusion with prior popes at least in MY memory. he has done nothing but give cover to the religious left and confound and unsettle those of us Catholics on the right. i read again and again that he has been mistranslated, that it’s taken out of context etc. why is it a recurring problem with him, but has not been with any other? i am a faithful Catholic, and i am reserving judgement on Pope Francis, but i am more than a little unsettled.


11 posted on 12/05/2013 9:24:05 AM PST by xsmommy
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To: al_c

I agree. When the Pope says we need to have compassion for the poor, liberals hear “We should take care of welfare queens and baby boomers who haven’t been able to leverage their two Phd’s into a good occupation”.

They don’t understand that the Pope’s definition of poor is impoverished, hungry, under the thumb of a narco-corrupt government, and without hope or opportunity.

They are projecting their own twisted beliefs on him.


14 posted on 12/05/2013 9:35:04 AM PST by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
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To: al_c

I have zero interest in what a Pope says, I only care about what the word of God says.


15 posted on 12/05/2013 9:39:06 AM PST by Bulwyf
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To: al_c
What Fox News (and all the others) don’t get is that Pope Francis, when he speaks (or writes) ... he is speaking universally ... not just about the USA. They don’t get that.

I have seen a couple of people say this around here and I still don't get what it means. I can accept that we may be misreading him, though I am equally inclined to think he is likely misspeaking, but how does universality change anything? If a man says that free markets and economic growth are not going to bring about greater justice and inclusiveness, how is that meliorated by saying it isn't about the US but everybody? I can't possibly understand a difference in that. Either a person recognizes that economic prosperity gives people opportunities, jobs and the dignity they provide, food on their table, and shelter over their heads, or they don't. Whether I dislike capitalism in this country or everywhere hardly changes what my opinion represents and means in regard to prosperity and freedom. A universal authoritarian is also a local authoritarian.

21 posted on 12/05/2013 10:09:42 AM PST by cothrige
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