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To: xzins; boatbums; narses; metmom; Jvette
The other is a spiritual prayer saying, “help us, Lord, if it be Your will, with this period of celibacy.” And that temporary celibacy is endorsed by the Apostle Paul who wrote: “1 Co 7: 5 Do not deprive each other except by mutual consent and for a time, so that you may devote yourselves to prayer. Then come together again so that Satan will not tempt you because of your lack of self-control. 6 I say this as a concession, not as a command.”

Oh, come on now. You can do better than that.

That verse says NOTHING about celibacy for the purpose of birth control. It's talking about NOT depriving each other for the purpose of *PRAYER AND FASTING NOT for the purpose of contraception.

51 posted on 12/14/2013 5:30:05 AM PST by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith....)
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To: metmom

But you are OK with contraception, right?


52 posted on 12/14/2013 5:31:43 AM PST by narses (... unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you do not have life within you.)
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To: metmom; narses; Jvette; boatbums
The other is a spiritual prayer saying, “help us, Lord, if it be Your will, with this period of celibacy.” And that temporary celibacy is endorsed by the Apostle Paul who wrote: “1 Co 7: 5 Do not deprive each other except by mutual consent and for a time, so that you may devote yourselves to prayer. Then come together again so that Satan will not tempt you because of your lack of self-control. 6 I say this as a concession, not as a command.”

If you'll read the sentence again, I intentionally wrote that Paul endorsed temporary celibacy. Nothing more. It says "help us, Lord, if it be Your will, with this period of celibacy."

One can be temporarily praying and fasting for any number of reasons, and that to include God's plan for one's family.

The bottom line is that Paul endorses temporary celibacy for prayerful reasons. That prayer could well be God's plan for the family. In fact, a case can be made that bringing even conception before the throne of God is every bit as faithful than trusting conception to random happenstance.

And what is your scripture for using condoms to prevent conception?

58 posted on 12/14/2013 9:16:04 AM PST by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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