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To: afsnco

You’re giving the words meaning based on your inferences. What about those outside the Ark? What about those outside the Titanic lifeboats?


73 posted on 01/09/2014 11:25:25 AM PST by cuban leaf
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To: cuban leaf

Aren’t you ignoring words such as “eternal” and “everlasting?” :-)

The Holy Spirit didn’t mention those outside the Ark, other than to say they died. You also seem to be comparing physical death with eternal life.

Rev 20:12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.
Rev 20:13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.
Rev 20:14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.
Rev 20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

The above indicates to me that men cast into the lake of fire will have varying punishments according to their works. If they’re all snuffed immediately, what’s the point?

Rev 21:7 He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son.
Rev 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

Just as the first death wasn’t the end, neither will the second death, unfortunately for them, be the end.

I know hell is a hard doctrine. Foundationally, the problem is that people can’t square the evangelical mantra that “God is love” with eternal hell. The general belief is that God is passive, pleading and powerless in the face of the “almighty” sinner, that He’s some sort of kindly indulgent grandfather. That’s the diametric opposite of the truth. God is love AND wrath. When evangelicals only speak of love, they’re leaving half the story untold.

Our forefathers used to preach hellfire and brimstone, and more’s the pity that the modern feminized visible church couldn’t learn that lesson again. People no longer have the fear of God before their eyes, and that’s why we’re in the sad shape we’re in. That fear of God kept men from being as bad as they could be for fear of how horrendous He would make their eternal torture. Not so anymore.


85 posted on 01/09/2014 12:20:52 PM PST by afsnco
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