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To: happyhomemaker

I have no idea where Ted Bundy’s soul is and I don’t claim to be less than a sinner than he was, but I can see where NKP is coming from. It seems like a little game that a lot feel they can play with the almighty by having a deathbed conversion. I’ll leave it to God who’s forgiven and who’s not, but you are bordering on preaching cheap grace if you are out saying you can outsmart God and his system.


30 posted on 01/12/2014 7:28:34 AM PST by MNDude
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To: MNDude; knarf; metmom; boatbums; caww; presently no screen name; smvoice; redleghunter; ...
It seems like a little game that a lot feel they can play with the almighty by having a deathbed conversion. I’ll leave it to God who’s forgiven and who’s not, but you are bordering on preaching cheap grace if you are out saying you can outsmart God and his system.

Which is why i added my comment. But while RCs (if not you) are prone to charge sola fide with preaching a cheap grace, "easy believism" is what Rome most examples, as her faith as manifest by her works, is that even notorious liberal RCs are to be treated as members in life and in death.

Moreover, rather than the easy believism Rome associates with sola fide, in Puritan Protestantism there was often a tendency to make the way to the cross too narrow, perhaps in reaction against the Antinomian controversy as described in an account (http://www.the-highway.com/Early_American_Bauckham.html) of Puritans during the early American period that notes, “

They had, like most preachers of the Gospel, a certain difficulty in determining what we might call the ‘conversion level’, the level of difficulty above which the preacher may be said to be erecting barriers to the Gospel and below which he may be said to be encouraging men to enter too easily into a mere delusion of salvation. Contemporary critics, however, agree that the New England pastors set the level high. Nathaniel Ward, who was step-son to Richard Rogers and a distinguished Puritan preacher himself, is recorded as responding to Thomas Hooker’s sermons on preparation for receiving Christ in conversion with, ‘Mr. Hooker, you make as good Christians before men are in Christ as ever they are after’, and wishing, ‘Would I were but as good a Christian now as you make men while they are preparing for Christ.’”

More: http://peacebyjesus.witnesstoday.org/Reformation_faith_works.html

37 posted on 01/12/2014 7:49:17 AM PST by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: MNDude
but you are bordering on preaching cheap grace if you are out saying you can outsmart God and his system.

And what's wrong with cheap grace??? In fact, grace is so cheap, it's free...It's a free gift...

87 posted on 01/12/2014 10:59:28 AM PST by Iscool
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...you are bordering on preaching cheap grace if you are out saying you can outsmart God and his system.
I believe you should have included NKP_Vet in your ping to that statement.

I seems he can decided who is saved or not saved.

If Grace-to-salvation can come from a human it really doesn't help, sorry.

101 posted on 01/12/2014 11:21:19 AM PST by Syncro ("So?" - -Andrew Breitbart --The King of All Media RIP Feb 1, 1969 to Mar 1, 2012)
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