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Evolution is Most Certainly a Matter of Belief... and so is Christianity
Christian Headlines ^ | January 15, 2014 | Albert Mohler

Posted on 01/15/2014 8:57:46 AM PST by xzins

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To: Viennacon

The acceptance of evolution has profound social, and in turn, political implications.

The dominant model for evolution consists of “directionless”, “random mutations” which over time are preserved via natural selection for the survival benefit of the species.

Basically it is trial and error, or I should say error and trial, and more importantly, death.

Lots of death.

It is also an embrace of “uncertainty”. This is where it gets political.

There is soo much more.


21 posted on 01/15/2014 10:04:51 AM PST by Zeneta
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To: Viennacon

And Ancient aliens just pushes materialism’s abiogenesis to another planet. Abiogenesis is just as impossible anywhere in the universe.


22 posted on 01/15/2014 10:05:55 AM PST by afsnco
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To: Oliviaforever

Sigh .....

I can picture you and many others arguing that the world is flat like a 2 dimensional circle or square back in the 16th century because that is what the bible says and those 16th century scientists who are saying the planet looks like a sphere that, gasp, travels around the sun, should be disfellowshipped and labelled apostates.

If evolution is incorrect, science will prove it out to be incorrect. That is how science works - constantly testing to determine if a theory is correct or not.

Science is why we have located and developed a lot of our resources including oil and gas, established a top notched and improving medical system to keep us living and invented many of the great technologies we now use to communicate and travel.

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My advice (which you will probably ignore) - Just keep your faith separate from science. Mixing science and faith is not a good combination.


23 posted on 01/15/2014 10:09:53 AM PST by hawkaw
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To: hawkaw
If evolution is incorrect, science will prove it out to be incorrect. That is how science works - constantly testing to determine if a theory is correct or not.

How, exactly does science "test" their evolutionary theory ?

Observation ?

Repetition ?

24 posted on 01/15/2014 10:12:54 AM PST by Zeneta
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To: afsnco

What is really amazing about those that want their “religion” in all the books want to get rid of the true religion out of schools and the work place and that is the real issue here. It is what they want and that is it. the atheists and the leftists want us to goose step to what the believe.


25 posted on 01/15/2014 10:15:25 AM PST by Busko (The only thing that is certain is that nothing is certain.)
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To: Viennacon

You’re talking about the Miller-Urey experiments, that were conducted without oxygen (which would’ve broken down what they produced as quickly as they were artificially created). They didn’t even get close to creating life. They didn’t even create a protein. They created a few amino acids of both “left and right-handedness.” Life can only form with “left-handed” amino acids.


26 posted on 01/15/2014 10:17:15 AM PST by afsnco
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To: xzins
For scientifically-mined skeptics, I present the following public, miraculous phenomena that are available for scientific investigation:

Shroud of Turin
Tilma of Juan Diego
Eucharistic Miracle of Lanciano

27 posted on 01/15/2014 10:19:04 AM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: afsnco

That’s the one. :)


28 posted on 01/15/2014 10:19:31 AM PST by Viennacon
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To: Viennacon

I remember it being a simple experiment involving amino acids either produced by the electricity after running through some other products or used at the outset and producing congealed amino acids.

Which are just molecules and not life by any stretch of the imagination.


29 posted on 01/15/2014 10:19:33 AM PST by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

Isn’t Juan Diego actually Zorro or his dad or the mute guy?

(Just kidding....sorry...couldn’t help myself.)


30 posted on 01/15/2014 10:20:57 AM PST by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: hawkaw

In addition, what would be acceptable as evidence that evolutionary theory is False ?

Scientific theories need to be, by definition: Observable, repeatable and “Falsifiable”.

Evolutionary theory meets NONE of those criteria.

And you call it science ?


31 posted on 01/15/2014 10:21:38 AM PST by Zeneta
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To: hawkaw
That is how science works - constantly testing to determine if a theory is correct or not.

A bit of a naïve statement there.

You are postulating perfection for science, and believing in a "science establishment" that always wants the truth.

If you don't think "science" can be corrupted, just study the global warming fiasco, or one of its forerunner hoaxes called Piltdown Man. Any "scientist" with the tiniest bit of common sense knows it's a political game, that you make money by supporting what the cool guys want you to think is true.

Sorry, many (if not most) university scientists have become unglued in this immoral day and age through falsification of results and exaggeration of their theories for money.

Having faith in "science" is not good for your health these days.

32 posted on 01/15/2014 10:22:40 AM PST by Lakeshark (Mr Reid, tear down this law!)
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To: xzins

Out of curiosity, what about evolution do you think is true? Do you believe in what’s known as “creationism” (young earth theories)?


33 posted on 01/15/2014 10:24:50 AM PST by Lakeshark (Mr Reid, tear down this law!)
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To: xzins
Evolutionary scientists constantly argue for naturalistic theories of the origin of matter, energy, life—and the entire cosmos.

Some do, some don't. Half-truths are the most seductive lies.

34 posted on 01/15/2014 10:25:35 AM PST by tacticalogic
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To: hawkaw

(s)Eratosthenes of Cyrene faked his earth is a sphere measurements in 240 BC!(/s)

(s)farmers using selective breeding is vooodoooo!(/s)


35 posted on 01/15/2014 10:25:37 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: hawkaw

Most of us have no problem with operational science, science that’s observable and repeatable. But many “scientists” try to equate their “origins science” with operational science. That’s where their blind faith is showing.

That’s how gelatinous heme found in the bone of a supposedly 65 million year old t-rex doesn’t cause “origins scientists” to revisit their views on such ages. Instead, they say, “Well, obviously, under certain conditions, gelatinous heme can survive for 65 million years.” There was no, “Wait, that’s impossible!” “Scientists” are just as prone to worldviews and agendas as everybody else, but that’s especially true of origins scientists.


36 posted on 01/15/2014 10:28:49 AM PST by afsnco
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To: afsnco

I posted this link earlier and if you haven’t seen this, well I think you will enjoy it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-j9-cyRbFcs


37 posted on 01/15/2014 10:31:10 AM PST by Zeneta
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To: plain talk

“Death certainly could have existed prior to adam. There are not enough details in Genesis to know for sure.”

If you limit yourself only to reading Genesis, you might be able to get away with that statement. However, if you accept the entire Bible as God’s Word, then you are out of luck:

“12Therefore, just as sin entered the world through one man, and death through sin, and in this way death came to all people, because all sinned—
13To be sure, sin was in the world before the law was given, but sin is not charged against anyone’s account where there is no law. 14Nevertheless, death reigned from the time of Adam to the time of Moses, even over those who did not sin by breaking a command, as did Adam, who is a pattern of the one to come.”

Romans 5:12-13


38 posted on 01/15/2014 10:31:35 AM PST by Boogieman
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To: hawkaw

“I can picture you and many others arguing that the world is flat like a 2 dimensional circle or square back in the 16th century because that is what the bible says and those 16th century scientists who are saying the planet looks like a sphere that, gasp, travels around the sun, should be disfellowshipped and labelled apostates.”

Yeah, except that never happened, it’s a myth. People have known since before Christ that the Earth was round.


39 posted on 01/15/2014 10:35:39 AM PST by Boogieman
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To: Zeneta

Thanks. I’ve been to the Museum in Petersburg, KY. If you haven’t been, I highly recommend it.


40 posted on 01/15/2014 10:43:27 AM PST by afsnco
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