Posted on 01/15/2014 6:58:58 PM PST by marshmallow
The Rev. Anne Robertson has baptized more infants and youngsters than she can count in her past years as a United Methodist minister in Massachusetts, New Hampshire and Florida.
But the Plymouth resident and Massachusetts Bible Society director never imagined that she’d get the chance to share a ritual drop of water for a baptism remembrance with a Roman Catholic cardinal.
Until Sunday, when Cardinal Sean O’Malley asked her.
“It was completely unexpected,” the Rev. Robertson said Tuesday, in her first media interview about the encounter. “I’m still blown away by it.”
“What moved me was not so much that I was anointing him,” she said. “It was him being willing to accept that from my hand – to ask me, as a woman in ministry, to do that.”
A Rhode Island native, the Rev. Robertson was the only female clergy member who assisted at a special 50th anniversary worship service at Sudbury United Methodist Church. Cardinal O’Malley delivered the homily at the ecumenical gathering, which commemorated a groundbreaking appearance by Cardinal Richard Cushing at the church in 1964.
(Excerpt) Read more at patriotledger.com ...
I confess one baptism for the forgiveness of sins.
Question:
What is the difference between Cardinal O’Malley and a Female Methodist Pastor?
Answer:
The Female Methodist Pastor occasionally votes Republican.
I’m not sure I understand just what this ritual was about. The United Methodist Church does allow for a “reaffirmation” of baptism, where one basically makes a public reaffirmation of faith, but “re-baptism” is not allowed. In a reaffirmation the person making the reaffirmation puts the water on his own head, usually in the sign of the cross on the forehead. That doesn’t sound like what happened here.
I’m going to guess this ritual was similar to a priest on certain occasions sprinkling the people with holy water, which does remind us of our baptism.
Similar words were used in the article about the ritual water she was using, “....for a baptism remembrance”.
The ritual exercise cost the cardinal nothing. The water was not holy water; there was no baptism apparently;the woman was neither a religious nor a priest, and so it seems to amount to nothing more than a friendly gesture to participate in, with a lay person, from his probable point of view.
Maybe not, but the media does love to stir up questions, doubts and controversy.
“As part of Sunday’s anniversary service, the 500 who filled Sudbury United Methodist to overflowing were invited to receive a drop of consecrated water on their forehead and be told, “Remember your baptism and be thankful.”
If that’s it, it’s not a baptism.
Freegards
What next? A clown mass!? Err... uh.. oh wait
Sean Cardinal O’Malley, the Archbishop of Boston, is the happiest man ... like the class clown, but turned serious when his turn to speak came ...
http://boston.cbslocal.com/2013/03/14/keller-large-future-of-catholic-church-looks-bright/
The message projected by that picture reeks of relativism. To the casual observer (or to the poorly catechized, low information Catholic) the message received is that the Cardinal and the female minister are comparable. Go to one or the other for sacraments. What difference does it make?
Not likely in this case. Cardinal O'Malley had himself anointed by a supporter of the "Progressive Christians for Barack Obama".
"...Most of all, as people of faith, both clergy and laity, we declare that we find in Barack Obama: • A man of faith who respects and encourages religious diversity. • A servant leader who, both as an organizer and a legislator, has understood the real problems of the American people and worked diligently to address them. • A communicator who has demonstrated calm wisdom, sound judgment, creativity and a grasp of complex issues. • A candidate who appeals to the noblest aspects of our natures. • A president who would redeem and restore the image of America in the world, calling us to be once more a symbol of freedom, generosity and compassion."
http://www.gopetition.com/petitions/progressive-christians-for-barack-obama/signatures-page3.html
Answer:
The Female Methodist Pastor occasionally votes Republican
ROTFL!
-Pope Pius XI, 1928, Mortalium Animos
Cardinal O'Malley is just another post-Vatican II clergyman like all of the post Vatican II popes who chooses to ignore Traditional Catholic teaching. And most Catholics see this as a good thing (or at least not a bad thing.
I bet Satan loves these kind of rituals.
You may know much more about O’Malley than I do. I posted a “guess”, based on a question I read among the comments and I made an observation.
I read only what was posted at the top of the thread and simply concluded there was no baptism taking place, no sacramentals, nothing of actually Catholic practice involved, but for a priest engaging in a humble in an act of friendship with different believers, some lady.
I do appreciate what you are pointing out also. The action could be interpretated falsely by others, and could mislead other believers about the Sacrament of Holy Orders. I just chose the road for least inflaming, which is probably a first for me. :) Rita.
Remember that from a Catholic point of view, a female Methodist pastor can baptize validly. Baptism with water, in the name of the Trinity, with the intention of following the Great Commission.
A thread where FRoman Catholics interpret what a Cardinal is doing!
True, and a female nurse (or anybody else, for that matter) can also baptize validly.
The problem is that when a Successor of the Apostles subjugates himself to a female minister, the picture transmits the message to the average person that the cardinal and the female minister are at the very least interchangeable.
Not much different than this (sorry I don’t know how to post pictures):
http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o179/dlk1992/306_Bergoglio01.jpg
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