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Can We Save America? Do You Want The Truth?
IFB ^ | 1/16/14

Posted on 01/16/2014 4:15:17 AM PST by The Ignorant Fisherman

Can we save America? That question is asked every day by the conservative media and its followers as we ever spiral unto our national doom at EXPONENTIAL speeds. My personal opinion is that we cannot and that Almighty God has given this nation over unto a reprobate mind and are now presently under His Divine judgment (Rom. 1:18-32). It is not hard to see this if we have eyes to see.

Look at our outright rejection of Almighty God and His Word! Look at our super abounding lawlessness and its American inhabitants! Look at our lawless leadership! Look at our lewdness and national sex addiction! Look at our 55 million abortion since 1973! Look at our greed, callousness, envy, narcissism, violence and ignorance of rightness! Look at our crippling national addiction to Big godless government! Look at our addiction to technology and to the TV and movie industry ideology! Look at our moral relativism (spiritual and moral) and secularism! Etc...Etc... Etc... My dear friends, stand back and objectively look at our nation just in these last five years and please tell me that we will come out all right in the end? O How we need REALITY today!! One would have to be an absolute fool and delusional optimistic bubble head to say and believe that we can save this nation. Yet the false prophets of the right are peddling this lie and optimistic conservative kool-aid to its unregenerate conservative masses and to ignorant believers in the Savior and they are drinking it up by the barrel full. No wonder the Lord Jesus Christ stated that the Day of the Lord will come as a thief and His second coming from Heaven's glory even more so (1 Thess. 5:2, 2 Peter 3:10, Rev. 3:3, 16:15). There was... once a day that the tide could be turned but since 2008 we are at far past all restoration and remedies for our nation.

We are at a time right now in America’s history when we are about to experience the full collapse of our Republic (socially and fiscally). Our nation’s debt and fiscal situation is at the absolute breaking point and our leadership knows it and is genuinely frightened at the fiscal and social tsunami that is about to take place. For the Left, this is their “perfect storm” and “the ideal crisis” to move their godless agenda forward. For this is their time to seize final control and power, set up a godless secular state and tyrannize the America people into making them absolutely dependent on them for everything. Thus is the fate of a republic when lawlessness has over come its inhabitants and has saturated their minds. When the collapse of a nation’s currency and social order takes place (After the Rapture), the massive vacuum will be filled with fractured nation, civil war and a fascist dictatorship and state. History continues to bare witness to this. We in our world of today have no where to go but straight into the Wrath of Almighty God and global tribulation (Rev. 6-19).

When Americans out right rejects Almighty God's Person, RIGHTEOUSNESS, people and moral absolutes for time for a healthy society they are left only with Satan, tyrants, thugs, reprobates, immorality and its horrific consequences, violence and their godless selves (Rom. 1:18-32). How much "peace" do you think that will bring to our nation?

The key to surviving today is to face the REALITY of our day and hour and to see things rightly from Almighty God's ETERNAL perspective! My dear friends, lose the optimistic delusion that we will save America, for that is the greatest demonic lie of our hour and open your hearts and minds to Almighty God's saving solution, His Word and ETERNAL future of RIGHTEOUSNESS (Mark 13:31, John 3:16-17, 36, 1 John 2:15-17, Rev. 21-22:1-5)! My dear friends TRUE PEACE will only come when one acknowledges one's dire need for the Savior of the world and abandon one's fallen subjective worldly perspective and have faith (believe/receive) in Almighty God, His Son and His Holy Word (John 3-7, 16-17, Gal.1:4). See the ETERNAL picture!

The Kingdom of Heaven is at hand!

DJP I.F.


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1 posted on 01/16/2014 4:15:18 AM PST by The Ignorant Fisherman
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To: The Ignorant Fisherman
Oh my..... One has to wonder if you have lost the faith in our Lord, that He CAN miraculously bring us out of this and restore America.

We do know that one day what you are talking about will indeed happen. But there is a chance that this is not yet the day. Of course we need to be prepared in case it is the end.... but giving ourselves to the Lord is not done for the sole purpose of being along for the ride at the rapture, or making through Armageddon. It is something we do because we LOVE God and want to surrender and seek that cleansing from our sins, and follow Him and as a result we receive His Grace. And we go on daily in the Faith that He CAN give us more time to bring others to this Faith.

We have read in the scriptures how time and time again, God brought Israel to almost total destruction, but then restored them when they turned back to Him. America is only 238 years old...... perhaps He will do this to us as well. Perhaps not. But I prefer to keep the Faith that all is not lost if only enough of us ..... well.... keep the Faith.

And in doing so, there is a good chance that America can be renewed. And if not, we haven't lost anything because in plan B, God is still in control. So personally I will continue to proclaim from the rooftops that if we repent and turn back to God (the God of the Holy Bible, the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit) as a nation, then He CAN save us.

2 posted on 01/16/2014 4:50:38 AM PST by Apple Pan Dowdy (... as American as Apple Pie)
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To: Apple Pan Dowdy

I believe you are spot on! Keep the faith.


3 posted on 01/16/2014 5:00:23 AM PST by spudville
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To: Apple Pan Dowdy

Under the undocumented secret-Moslem Obama and
the treasonous EXEMPT US Congress, America
is at “war” against Israel and the American
people, as they arm al Qaeda and
DELIBERATELY leave the borders open.

This cannot end well.


4 posted on 01/16/2014 5:01:48 AM PST by Diogenesis
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To: Apple Pan Dowdy

I suspect you may be right, but I will fight these punk-arsed progressive destroyers to the death.


5 posted on 01/16/2014 5:03:50 AM PST by Mich Patriot (PITCH BLACK is the new "transparent")
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To: The Ignorant Fisherman

I guess the question is.. does God even WANT to “save” this country, if He deems it in His will that such a country that elevates the evil that it does and turns from Him should be allowed to fall?


6 posted on 01/16/2014 5:04:57 AM PST by ScottinVA (Obama is so far in over his head, even his ears are beneath the water level.)
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To: Apple Pan Dowdy
And if not, we haven't lost anything because in plan B, God is still in control.

I agree God is in control.. however, that doesn't mean how He exercises that control will necessarily be to our liking.

7 posted on 01/16/2014 5:07:41 AM PST by ScottinVA (Obama is so far in over his head, even his ears are beneath the water level.)
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If you have listened to Yuri Bezmenov, you know that a late stage objective in the Communist takeover strategy is to demoralize the populace to a point where they throw up their hands in resignation and let the State totally ravage and rape them. It sounds like the author has arrived at this Communist achieved mental state of total resignation. I prefer to take the Spartan approach, so well displayed in “Lone Survivor.” Marcus Lattrell said it best when he confronted Jake Tapper's remark that the SEALS effort was “such a waste.” Lattrell lashed back with the pronouncement that for SEALS, hope is never lost as long one remains alive. That, my friend, is the what the Bible also teaches. Stay true to the Lord and fight evil to the death wherever you find it. The socialists of today tell us with their sophist arguments that if your doctor informs you that you have a terminal illness, don't be stupid and throw your money away on costly medical care, just take a pill, go home and die. To the socialist, the ‘greater good’ is what you should aspire to, which is save your money for the Statist to spend it. After all they know so much better than you what to spend it on. None of this will ever make sense to me.
8 posted on 01/16/2014 5:07:53 AM PST by iontheball
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To: Apple Pan Dowdy

The question remains— can we save America? as your reply suggests we cannot.”As it is written in 1 Sam.17:47 David the shepherd boy to Goliath “...The Battle is the Lord’s.” As you said He can save us. the problem is as the Ignorant fisherman has so aptly documented the nation is divided against itself —and now the enemy controls the national debate. Unless we repent —without the nation in Fasting ,humiliation and prayer as we would have been prior to our American Civil War. Perhaps even as late as World War One.
But as the Ignorant fisherman so aptly documents what is —unless we repent I see No hope. ALL this being said I do agree with your reply and I do admire your spirit


9 posted on 01/16/2014 6:54:09 AM PST by StonyBurk (ring)
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To: ScottinVA
"I agree God is in control.. however, that doesn't mean how He exercises that control will necessarily be to our liking."

You are right, and that's what I meant by "plan B". Plan B will certainly not be pleasant and what we want, but God will help us get through it somehow. I just pray that the Rapture happens before it gets too bad.

10 posted on 01/16/2014 6:58:21 AM PST by Apple Pan Dowdy (... as American as Apple Pie)
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To: Mich Patriot

I think we all know what is going to have to happen to restore the Constitutional Republic. Electing a handful of Tea Party legislators won’t do it.


11 posted on 01/16/2014 6:58:36 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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Right on, Georgia Girl 2! You hit the nail on the head.


12 posted on 01/16/2014 7:04:03 AM PST by Apple Pan Dowdy (... as American as Apple Pie)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

I forgot to add this to my above post.....

“Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.” —John Adams


13 posted on 01/16/2014 7:14:10 AM PST by Apple Pan Dowdy (... as American as Apple Pie)
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To: The Ignorant Fisherman

I see that this will present the opportunity for greater witnessing for the Lord and His Gospel.


14 posted on 01/16/2014 7:16:10 AM PST by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

Yep, every one on our side helps, but I fear TP legislators will continue to be few. Some states are taking encouraging steps. Maybe if we all move to these states/regions (likely happeing already), shrug off the dead weight (stop handouts and they’ll leave), perhaps we can declare independence and start over. We could even take the Constitution since they wouldn’t want it.


15 posted on 01/16/2014 7:20:43 AM PST by Mich Patriot (PITCH BLACK is the new "transparent")
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Be careful about the “rapture trap”.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/2461003/posts


16 posted on 01/16/2014 7:44:57 AM PST by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: The Ignorant Fisherman
For the Left, this is their “perfect storm” and “the ideal crisis” to move their godless agenda forward. For this is their time to seize final control and power, set up a godless secular state and tyrannize the America people into making them absolutely dependent on them for everything.

I think it is naive to think those on the right are our allies fighting the good fight and that the focus should be on the Left...There are a handful on our side...That's it...Cruz comes to mind...

Other than that, I agree with you...It looks as tho God has sent a 'clear' signal and is giving us a little time to clean up our loose ends...

After the Rapture, there will be no opposing force in the World to prevent that great evangelical movement by the pope to unite the religions of the World...

17 posted on 01/16/2014 7:59:53 AM PST by Iscool
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To: Apple Pan Dowdy
And in doing so, there is a good chance that America can be renewed. And if not, we haven't lost anything because in plan B, God is still in control. So personally I will continue to proclaim from the rooftops that if we repent and turn back to God (the God of the Holy Bible, the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit) as a nation, then He CAN save us.

There is no plan B...God would have no interest in saving the Nation...When God is done calling in the Gentiles, it's over...

18 posted on 01/16/2014 8:02:10 AM PST by Iscool
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Rather, instead of a rapture, Christians are going to be suffering for their faith in the Lord and the Gospel.


19 posted on 01/16/2014 8:06:39 AM PST by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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Instead of talking about a “rapture”, it is much, much better to go out and proclaim the Gospel all our lives.


20 posted on 01/16/2014 8:16:39 AM PST by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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