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To: Cvengr
Future sin has been addressed at the Cross,

Are you forgiven for your future sins now? All your future sins, no matter what? Is this what OSAS means?

but as it is future, we do not have to sin.

You don't have to, but you will, yes? And then…? What are you presuming in regards to your future sin?

It is absurd to forgive future sin.

It is absurd to presume your future sins are forgiven now, not knowing what they are or whether you will confess or repent of them. Is this what you are doing in OSAS?

224 posted on 01/26/2014 12:27:37 AM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: D-fendr; Cvengr
It is absurd to presume your future sins are forgiven now, not knowing what they are or whether you will confess or repent of them. Is this what you are doing in OSAS?

As Christ died on the cross, when we are in Christ, God reckons us to have died to sin as well.

We are once saved always saved because the power of sin in us is broken and we are free from the penalty of sin because our sin was judged and paid for on the cross, when it was ALL future sin.

The sin we commit is committed in the flesh and when the body of flesh dies, sin is gone as well. The new creature we are in Christ, the spirit man, is free of sin and capable of going to heaven to be in the presence of God and it does not take sin with it because the sin is in the flesh, which is dead.

Yes, we need to confess sin to restore the right fellowship with God but sin does not damn us anymore because of the reasons mentioned above.

228 posted on 01/26/2014 5:13:24 AM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith....)
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To: D-fendr

Future sin was addressed at the Cross.

The Cross was not Forgiveness.
The Cross was Judgment, Judgment, Judgment.

2 entirely separate issues.

At the moment of saving faith, God regenerates the human spirit. It doesn’t cease to exist if we sin after salvation.

If we sin after salvation, then we grieve the Holy Spirit and are no longer in fellowship with Him. He still indwells us. That is His decision by His Plan. We remain sealed, even if out of fellowship. We just don’t advance nor perform works by His Standards to receive some rewards at the bema seat.

Forgiveness for post salvation sin occurs when we repent and confess those sins back to God through faith in Christ.

Catholic theology in Christ was fabulous up until about Gregory when it drifted away from Christ and substituted itself as an institution in place of Christ.


229 posted on 01/26/2014 6:11:55 AM PST by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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