Free Republic
Browse · Search
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Russian Church Spokesman Urges Interference to Stop Ukraine Getting on EU-Bound Course
Interfax ^ | 1/28/14

Posted on 01/28/2014 6:14:26 AM PST by marshmallow

Moscow, January 28, Interfax - Head of the Synodal Department for Church and Society Relations Archpriest Vsevolod Chaplin has lashed out against the pro-European Union movement in Ukraine and called for interference to keep the country within "Eastern Christian civilization."

"A small group of people who are being led by views that are false both from the theological and from the public point of view are going to lengths that not even a large nation would do - they are trying to scrap a historical choice and will of an entire nation," Archpriest Vsevolod Chaplin said at a meeting at Russia's upper house of parliament on Tuesday.

People that are bound together by their historical choice, a choice taken by Prince Vladimir in "the baptistery of Kiev," must help those who "are in crisis in the face of an invasion of a new horde," he said.

"It is absolutely clear that external forces will inevitably be involved in making decisions on the future of Ukraine. It will apparently be impossible to keep everything within the limits of domestic processes. This means there will be some kind of interference anyway. This means the possibility of interference by forces that don't want Ukraine to remain part of Eastern Christian civilization," he said.

The only way to defeat such forces is "the participation of the entire civilization that is kept together by shared history in what is happening to the people of Ukraine," he said.

"Such participation is essential, without any attention paid to any new horde and without worrying what would be said to us or about us, even in the run-up of the upcoming events in Sochi, events what will be extremely significant for us," the priest said. Print this page

TOPICS: Current Events; Orthodox Christian; Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics

1 posted on 01/28/2014 6:14:26 AM PST by marshmallow
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: marshmallow

What do YOU think the Ukrainians want to do?

2 posted on 01/28/2014 6:25:36 AM PST by cloudmountain
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: marshmallow


3 posted on 01/28/2014 6:53:06 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o (When you see a fork in the road, take it. - Yogi Berra)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: cloudmountain

“What do YOU think the Ukrainians want to do?”

Not get invaded and killed?

4 posted on 01/28/2014 6:54:57 AM PST by dljordan (WhoVoltaire: "To find out who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize.")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: cloudmountain

The ones in the east want closer industrial ties to Russia. The ones in the west want to catch the first flight to the UK and never look back.

5 posted on 01/28/2014 7:37:26 AM PST by Viennacon
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Viennacon
The ones in the east want closer industrial ties to Russia. The ones in the west want to catch the first flight to the UK and never look back.

Thanks for the reply.

By the way, viennacon, VIENNA is one of my ALL-TIME favorite cities in the world. What a place!

We had a guide throughout the city and it was a marvelous tour. Our guide made a "joke": She said that Austrians keep trying to convince the world that Hitler was German and Beethoven was Austrian. Well, Austria did produce, besides salt, MOZART.

I love opera and I figured out why the great opera composers are so great.

Mozart's music sounds like it's coming STRAIGHT from God.
Verdi's music gives us the shivers/goosebumps of delight.
Puccini's music makes us WEEP for its beauty.
Wagner's music takes us straight to Valhalla.

6 posted on 01/28/2014 11:34:06 AM PST by cloudmountain
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: dljordan
“What do YOU think the Ukrainians want to do?”
Not get invaded and killed?

Fatuous remark.

7 posted on 01/28/2014 12:01:30 PM PST by cloudmountain
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: cloudmountain

I chose the name based upon the heroism shown in Vienna back when the Islamic invasion of Europe was turned back. Sad that Austria will now be the first European country to become Muslim but its a city with a wonderful history. Like Damascus before the Muslims moved in.

8 posted on 01/28/2014 12:34:16 PM PST by Viennacon
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: marshmallow
It comes as no surprise the RUSSIAN Orthodox Church wants the Ukraine and its people to once again become a Russian puppet state, subjugated under the hob-nailed boot of Putin's Russia.

Why Are the Anti-Protest Happening in Ukraine?

January 28, 2014

I hope the following will in some small way help answer your question as to "why this is happening", because the very future and freedom of the Ukraine, and its people for generations to come is at stake.

Do not believe the propaganda and lies being foisted upon the public by Yanukovich’s government and government-controlled media in the Ukraine and Russia. The Ukrainian protestors are not “terrorists”, “’Right Wing’ fascists”, rebels, fanatics or hooligans. They are just people like us who want to remain free and who are willing to take a stand to remain so:

People of Ukraine ask the world for support.

“This is the Ukrainian response to all of the Media that broadcast false news about activists of EuroMaydan, especially Russian News Agencies that lie constantly about EuroMaydan and the people of the Ukrainian Revolution. Anna Fox”

“Это Украинский ответ на все СМИ, которые распространяют ложную информацию про активистов ЕвроМайдана, и Украинскую Революцию 2013-2014. Особенно упорно этим занимаются Российские СМИ, которые постоянно лгут своим зрителям и читателям. автор тексту: Anna Fox”

Люди Майдана / People of #Euromaidan

The events which started the protest rally are concisely stated in the Kiev Post: Editor's Note: “Anti-government EuroMaidan demonstrations began in Ukraine on Nov. 21, 2013 triggered by President Viktor Yanukovich’s decision to abandon closer ties with the European Union in favor of Russia, which in December offered him a $15 billion bailout and 33 percent discount on imported natural gas.”

(Translation: Simply put; Yanukovich totally reneged on the Ukrainian government’s long-standing promise to its people [going back to the fall of Communism in the country] of freedom and “closer ties with the West”, and then Yanukovich promptly turned around and sold the country of the Ukraine to Putin for a paltry 15 Billion dollars and the promise of “cheap gas”; once again subjugating the people of Ukraine under the boot of Russia and turning the Ukraine into a quasi “puppet state” of Russia. Putin, with the help of the twice convicted felon/Russian mafia boss Yanukovich want to turn the Ukraine into another Belarus [one giant prison, like North Korea] with the people reduced to servitude and Yanukovich and his successive “democratically elected” cronies set up as puppet dictators for life, under the watchful control of Putin’s Russia. The Ukrainian people realized Yanukovich’s actions and sweat heart “deal” has made this goal a reality and immediately began peacefully protesting against the régime.)

“The demonstrations turned deadly on Jan. 22, 2014 when at least three protesters were killed, including two from bullet wounds, during a police assault on the crowd. More than 300 suffered injuries. The tense standoff remains on Hrushevskoho Street near Dynamo Stadium.”

The reason why Yanukovich totally reneged on the Ukrainian government’s long-standing promise to its people [going back to the fall of Communism in the country] of freedom and “closer ties with the West”, and then Yanukovich promptly turned around and sold the country of the Ukraine to Putin for a paltry 15 Billion dollars and the promise of “cheap gas: YANUKOVICH’S MASSIVE CORRUPTION WITH TIES TO RUSSIA ON AN UNPRECIDENTED SCALE:

Yanukovych's "family business" links him to Russia

Yanukovych, the luxury residence and the money trail that leads to London

*For further insight, the following video link entitled “Ukraine: State of Chaos”, also provides an excellent overview of the historical and political dynamics that have brought the Ukraine to the position it now finds itself in.

Hundreds of thousands of Ukrainians have been peacefully protesting in order to reverse Yanukovich’s rejection of closer ties with the West and against his gas deal with Putin continually since November 21, 2013 because they want to remain free and do not want to again become a Russian satellite state.

High Resolution 360 picture of the freedom rally that has been taking place in Kiev’s Independence Square in the heart of the city since November 21st 2013:

The protesters have remained steadfast in their resolve and peaceful demands and the movement has continued to grow. In an attempt to utterly stamp out the protest Yanukovich, and his party in Congress came up with a diabolically simple, Soviet-era plan: they passed a draconian set of laws declaring ALL PROTEST, OF ANY KIND, THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE COUNTRY “ILLEGAL”!

These sweeping new laws were illegally and unconstitutionally pushed through the Rada (the Ukrainian Congress) on January 16, 2014; they were signed by President Yanukovich into law and took full effect beginning on January 21, 2014. These sweeping new laws prohibit the ENTIRE POPULATION OF THE UKRAINE from participating in ANY public gatherings, protests, public meetings or demonstrations of any kind. The law also prohibits ANY SIGNS, OR MESSAGES which criticize the government or President Yanukovich in any way under penalty of law. Heavy monetary fines and prison sentences are automatically meted out against any and all who are found guilty.

For details on this Soviet-style set of “laws” see:

Also included within this same perverse "law" was another provision making it ILLEGAL for journalists to investigate and report on ANY Ukrainian politician for ANY REASON WITHOUT FIRST OBTAINING THE POLITICIANS WRITTEN PERMISSION!

Given the overwhelming amount of confirmed, ongoing corruption that exists within numerous government circles, this "legal" proviso was specifically designed to prevent any discovery and disclosure of wrongdoing, and in turn criminalizes journalists for doing their job!

*It should again be noted that prior to these laws being passed; hundreds, upon hundreds of thousands, if not millions of people in Kiev and throughout the country had been peacefully protesting on an ongoing basis, without violence for TWO MONTHS since November 21, 2013!

As a direct result of these Stalinist tactics, the anti-protest ban have had the exact opposite effect and have reenergized the protest movement. Ukrainians have been defying the ban by hundreds of thousands since it was passed. Over 100,000 protestors packed Independence Square on January 19th alone, and numbers have been growing.

The protests have also increasingly spread throughout the entire country. This news article is dated January 26, 2014:

When Yanukovich’s Soviet-style laws failed to shut the Ukrainian people up, or end the peaceful demonstrations, he turned to violence by having his “Riot Police” brutally attack and kill Ukrainians who had continued to peacefully demonstrate against his oppressive government.

It has been learned and widely reported that many of these so-called Ukrainian "Riot police" are in point of fact not Ukrainians at all, but Russians who have been shipped into the country by Putin's government, with the support and cooperation of Ukrainian President Yanukovich, for the express purpose of keeping Mr. Yanukovich in power at all costs. Think of them as his personal “Praetorian Guard’

Bloodlands State-sanctioned murder on the streets of Kiev

By George Weigel January 22, 2014 7:00 PM

Yanukovich and his government has also been hiring, and training paid street thugs to brutalize the peaceful protestors:

Titushky troops have become true financial pyramids (with subtitles) *Undercover video journalism story proving Yanukovich régime hiring, paying and equipping/training street thugs to beat and terrorize peaceful protestors. Video report is in Ukrainian but it is easy to understand what is being reported: Hire thugs, pay thugs, train and equip thugs, unleash the thugs on the peaceful protestors to intimidate, beat, terrorize and arrest peaceful demonstrators who are then prosecuted and sentenced in Ukrainian “kangaroo courts”. *Warning, graphic violence

This article will tell you what you need to know about the police throughout the Ukraine:

This is some of what Yanukovich’s "Riot Police" have been up to since his government recently forced through an illegal and unconstitutional law banning ALL public protest on the pains of heavily punitive monetary dollar fines and prison sentences:

The protests only turned violent after two whole months when the protestors were ALL CRIMINALIZED by the Yanukovich government en-mass and attacked by his “Riot Police”.

After the anti-protest laws took effect, the thousands upon thousands of people peacefully demonstrating in downtown Kiev, and in Independence Square all received a text message sent by Yanukovich’s government on their cell phones at the same time informing each recipient that the government “knew who they were” and that “they were participating in an illegal protest”!

The enclosed YouTube news story link provides an overview of what took place on January 25 - 26th 2014 in Kiev, the capital of Ukraine. It should be noted that the Ukrainian Cultural building was taken over by protestors because it had previously been commandeered and controlled by "Riot Police" who were using it as a staging base against the demonstrators.

Again, please do not believe the propaganda and lies being foisted upon the public by Yanukovich’s government and government-controlled media in the Ukraine and Russia. The Ukrainian protestors are not “terrorists”, “’Right Wing’ fascists”, rebels, fanatics or hooligans. They are just people like us who want to remain free and who are willing to take a stand to remain so.

I recently received the enclosed first-hand reports sent from Christians within the Ukraine on January 2_, 2014 and felt compelled to post them because of the gravity of their contents and because they are an example of why millions of people throughout the Ukraine have been protesting their government continually since November 21, 2013. Please note, I corrected English (in parentheses) where necessary, removed the individuals name and contact information for their security and safety.

Update from Ukraine – Scary, Please read and pray. Signed: _ _ _ _ _ _ ps I did not correct _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _'s letter.

“Hello dear brothers and sisters.

I am writing from Ukraine, Kiev. It is crazy. A lot of people have been killed. A lot of provocation (provocation) is happening. One guy from my church was stolen (abducted). He was walking home, and two seconds later when he came out from bus, he was stolen (kidnapped) and taken to another bus, put on face and bited up (punched in the face and beaten up). Two hours later they brought him to some forest outside of Kiev and tried (tried) to brake (break) his arms, then took all (of) his close (clothes), and squised (squeezed/crushed) his testicals (testicles). After bitted (beating) him up they relesed (released) him to walk to Kiev alone at 3 am, when it was - 20 C. He walked home long time. And could die.

(*Friends in Christ, please pray for this brothers life and recovery.)

Another men (man) from my church was driving home, and sudenly (suddenly) a black wan (van) without (license) plates stoped (stopped) him, and 8 people came out and hitted (bludgeoned) his car (probably with bats, batons, rods or other items). But by God grace they only talked to him and did not bitted (beat) him up.

Our Goverment (Government) has sighned (signed) lowes (*laws) that limites (limits) all of us in getherings (gatherings). In Crymea (*Crimea) (Black See rigion [region]) deputats (deputies/political leaders) has (have) made a low (law) that only Moscow (Russian) Orthodox Church is legal (all) other(s) are (illegal and) under persecution. There are a lot of Baptist, Pentecostal and Charismatic Churches.

So we are scarry (scared). We need your prayers.

Please send this massege (message) to other Christian brothers and sisters to keep us and Ukraine in your prayers.”

The following excerpt on “resisting tyranny” found in “The Gulag Archipelago” best explains why the people of the Ukraine are taking action to defend themselves from their own government:

"During an arrest, you think since you are not guilty, how can they arrest you? Why should you run away? And how can you resist right then? After all, you’ll only make your situation worse; you will make it more difficult for them to sort out the mistake.

"And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say goodbye to his family?

Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand?

The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin’s thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt! We did not love freedom enough. Every man always has handy a dozen glib little reasons why he is right not to sacrifice himself."

The Gulag Archipelago by Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

Some will say… “Wait a minute, what about all of those “Ukrainians” who are supporting Yanukovich and ‘closer ties with Russia’?” Some historical background on the Crimea and the region supporting Yanukovich will help answer that question:

Once Soviet Russia conquered and subjugated the Ukraine, the former Soviet Union under Stalin depopulated the Crimean region by killing millions via Communist pogroms, the Holodomor [the intentional, systematic starvation of the entire population of the Ukraine, by direct order of Stalin beginning in 1932. The Holodomor ultimately resulted in the starvation death of between 7 and 9 million Ukrainians], and by sending multitudes of other Crimean survivors to the Gulags throughout Russian and Siberia, where the overwhelming majority eventually died.

After WWII and the death of Stalin, a massive “relocation program” was initiated throughout the Crimea by Nikita Khrushchev

(Alexander the Great wanted the Crimea, the Russian tsar’s wanted it, Napoleon wanted it, Great Brittan wanted it, Stalin wanted it, Hitler wanted it, and by the end of WWII Stalin got the Crimea back again. Why does everyone want the Crimea? First, because of its strategic Naval location on the Black Sea and secondly, because it is a great place to take a vacation, the place is beautiful!).

Multitudes of the indigenous Crimean population that survived all of the above atrocities (including the invasion and occupation of the Crimea by Nazi Germany, and Stalin’s persecution and pogroms against the region after WWII) were forcibly removed from their land and relocated deep within Eastern Russia/Siberia. In turn, Khrushchev shipped in multitudes of Russian Communists in order to repopulate the area with native speaking Russians and consolidate Soviet Russia’s holdings in the Crimea.

Subsequently, over time a massive, pro-Moscow, pro-[Soviet]-Russian population sprung up with little to no ties with the Ukraine: to this day they consider themselves Russians at heart, they speak Russian instead of Ukrainian and the region sets its clocks to “Moscow time”. The Russian Orthodox Church, historically notorious for its persecution of the evangelical church, is strong throughout this region of the Ukraine and also has strong ties with Moscow. This helps explain the Russian Orthodox Church’s recent carte blanche exemption from the new “anti-religion” laws which have recently been implemented throughout the region by deputies/politicians loyal to Yanukovich which make ALL churches and denominations, other than the Russian Orthodox Church, “illegal” and subject to punitive “anti-religion” laws: fines, prison sentences, etc.

Finally, It should also be noted that the Russian Mafia is very influential throughout this area of the country and this Russian-speaking region of the Ukraine was directly responsible for the success of Yanukovich’s presidential election victory. By in large these are the “Ukrainians” who are supporting Yanukovich and closer ties with Russia. However, this should come as no surprise given the fact that Yanukovich, the twice-convicted felon and Russian mafia boss, comes from, and ruthlessly ruled in this region of the Ukraine. He has also richly rewarded “his people” in this region for their “support” since he has taken and consolidated power as president. So it should come as no surprise that they have taken his side in the matter because there is a lot of $ at stake if he is removed from office.

As they say “follow the money”, that is unless you are a Ukrainian journalist. Because it is now “against the law” and YOU are the “criminal” if you “follow the money” without first obtaining their written permission to do so! Just like in the “good old” - “bad old days” under Soviet Russia.

You can get updates on what is taking place in the Ukraine in English on Twitter at: Euromaidan PM Facebook at: Euromaidanpr

And a Live video feed that has been running 24/7 since November 21, 2013 here:

January 28, 2014 UPDATE: Ukrainian Parliament Repeals Anti-protest Laws

How protest and violence in Ukraine could give way to unity

*Russia/Putin once again holding the country of Ukraine hostage by threatening to withhold Ukraine’s gas supply:

Putin Agrees to Pause on Ukraine Rescue as Medvedev Warns on Gas

By Anton Doroshev Jan 29, 2014 9:34 AM ET


Various Ukrainian language online news stations reporting what is taking place in Ukraine:

Online information and donation link: Support Euromaidan activists without leaving home


9 posted on 01/29/2014 12:31:59 PM PST by Jmouse007 (Deliver us from this evil, in Jesus name, amen.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794 is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson