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To: RobbyS

I does not matter what semantics of doctrine people accept or reject,reality does matter.

Possibly I would fit into the category of Platonic Realist, except that they separate objects into abstract and concrete based upon perception. For me, the line of demarcation is not so clear as perception is the variable that changes, not the reality of the object observed. What is perceived by one individual is not necessarily perceived by another. However, the reality is the same whether perceived or not. Many still perceive as a child.

Just as when you are born from the womb your perception of reality changed significantly from the limitations of the womb, when you are born of the spirit your perception of reality changes significantly again. Objects that would be abstractions to a child in the womb appear concrete to the sensory perception after they are born. Objects that appear as abstractions while you are limited to your physical body perceptions appear concrete from the perception of the soul or spirit.

For me, your soul and your thoughts and stored memories are physical tangible objects and not abstractions. Just as the physical body has various systems and attributes, so does your soul. Your physical body is a manifestation of your soul and it is sin in the soul that creates deterioration of the physical body. (I define sin as anything that creates an obstacle to Love in the soul. Love is the glue that holds the soul together.)

Just as a young child while learning to crawl develops 3-dimensional perception without realizing any great momentary change, the transition to perceiving souls is just a natural progression of soul development.

Jesus often spoke of the soul or spirit as separate from the physical body. He even advised that if your physical body was creating wounds in the soul it would be better to cut it off. For Jesus, the soul was not abstract. He was fully aware or awakened to the details of all souls around him. That’s how he knew their thoughts and past experiences. Matters of the flesh are not as important as matters that can wound the soul.

I have found that the consciousness from which we perceive varies according to its operational frequency. This is why perfect Love(a high frequency) casts out fear (a low frequency). To a person operating at a low frequency, mole-hills appear as huge as mountains while at a high frequency, mountains appear as small as mole-hills. Every Biblical scripture will fit into one of two categories. The first category contains guidelines on how to keep your soul clean(be like a child) or clean it through forgiveness, confession or similar actions. The second category is to always keep focused on God and Loving God to help you grow toward the higher frequencies.

This was the reason Jesus answered what He did in response the the Pharisees question on what was the most important commandment. The “Love thy Neighbor as Thy Self” removes your anchors and ballast that keeps your soul from growing to higher levels and the “Love God” commandment keeps the soul growing in the right direction. Both are critically important.

I have noticed that as you change your operational consciousness of your soul to higher frequencies the attributes change in a similar way to the EMF spectrum attributes. At low frequencies consciousness functions with wave attributes while at higher frequencies it functions with particle attributes, thus creating the change in perception. Just as a higher frequency such as a microwave will heat up and burn low frequency dense objects, a high frequency of consciousness (such as a prayerful blessing) to a low frequency consciousness is like placing hot coals upon their heads. This is why the weeds will be burned in Matthew 13. (Note: this is also why Polycarp was not harmed by the fire during his execution as he was filled with the high frequency Holy Spirit”)

I have also noticed that when a high frequency of consciousness is perceived by a low frequency consciousness, it is perceived as light. This is one of the many attributes of consciousness that I have observed is similar to atomic theory. Neals Bohr, the dutch atomic physicist who won the Nobel Prize discovered the same attribute in electrons going from a higher orbital to a lower orbital. There are many similarities such as this.

Is Jesus physical and tangible to you? He is for me. When Jesus went through the dark-night-of-the-soul experience and resisted the temptations of satan, his consciousness moved to the higher level where He perceived that His Father and He were one. Thankfully Jesus came to teach us how to do the same with Him. That is what communion is all about. As our soul grows to higher levels, you begin to perceive that we are one with Jesus, and that our Father that exists in Him also exists in us.

Where we must be careful is that a soul without a physical body has the ability to manifest the appearance of a physical body in any manner it desires. Often satan’s minions will take on the appearance of our deceased loved ones to lead us astray. They can be imitators or impostors. Jesus’ ability to heal and command spirits was a natural attribute of his higher frequency of consciousness. They were afraid that the Light that radiated from Him would burn them! Thus the concept of burning in hell.

Here is a puzzle for you. Matthew 24:

26 “So if anyone tells you, ‘There he is, out in the wilderness,’ do not go out; or, ‘Here he is, in the inner rooms,’ do not believe it. 27 For as lightning that comes from the east is visible even in the west, so will be the coming of the Son of Man.

Wow, He must be one heck of a big dude to be seen everywhere! Jesus is already here. The concept of rapture is merely us cleansing our souls and growing(raising up) to the point that we perceive that He is here already.

The physical body is merely a tool to create the illusion of separateness from God in order to entice us to grow. It is the stage or forum for those experiences. The body is totally a function or manifestation of the soul or spirit and not vise versa.


5 posted on 02/02/2014 4:40:26 AM PST by tired&retired
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To: tired&retired

Everything exposed by the light becomes visible—and everything that is illuminated becomes a light. This is why it is said:

“Wake up, sleeper,
rise from the dead,
and Christ will shine on you.”


6 posted on 02/02/2014 6:39:59 AM PST by tired&retired
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To: tired&retired

The individually of the soul surely has something to do with the individuality of the body, What can we know of the soul, except by the body. The mind and body looking inward find the soul, which is to say. that which already lives in eternity.


7 posted on 02/02/2014 10:52:52 AM PST by RobbyS (quotes)
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