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She wanted to convert. She listened to Cardinal Ratzinger and died a Lutheran.
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| 2/03/2014
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Posted on 02/03/2014 11:37:02 AM PST by ebb tide
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posted on
02/03/2014 11:37:03 AM PST
by
ebb tide
To: ebb tide
What difference would it have made?
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posted on
02/03/2014 11:44:11 AM PST
by
Linda Frances
(Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness.)
To: ebb tide
As Prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger charged her personally with the German version of particularly sensitive documents, such as his response to the objections of Protestant theologians to the Joint Declaration on the Doctrine of Justification of 1999. It was also Cardinal Ratzinger who, according to her own testimony, advised Sigrid Spath to remain a Protestant, and not to convert to the Catholic Church, as she had considered in a moment of crisis. She could do more for both churches if she remained a Protestant, said the Cardinal. The Carinthian remained in the Protestant Christuskirche in Rome [the Evangelical-Lutheran community of Rome] throughout her life. PFL
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posted on
02/03/2014 11:45:08 AM PST
by
Alex Murphy
("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
To: ebb tide
Joint Declaration on the Doctrine of Justification of 1999 Enough to make one a conservative Lutheran.
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posted on
02/03/2014 12:05:29 PM PST
by
xone
To: Linda Frances
No difference. Follow the example of Jesus in the new testament. Believe his words. You will be saved by forgiveness, grace and faith. Simple enough for a child to understand.
To: doc maverick
Follow the example of Jesus in the new testament. Believe his words. You will be saved by forgiveness, grace and faith. Simple enough for a child to understand. If I have to follow His example, how does forgiveness, grace and faith come into the picture? Sounds more like I"ll be saved by works.
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posted on
02/03/2014 1:04:04 PM PST
by
Gamecock
(Believing the Doctrines of Grace and not sharing is like being Batman and working in a Gas Station)
To: ebb tide
More proof that it’s not just Francis that thinks no one needs to convert to Catholicism. Remember proselytizing is solemn nonsense. This is ALL the direct result of the false ecumenism put forth at the Vatican II council. This is all the result of the New Religion that is the post Vatican II church.
Uggh. I get sicker and sicker and angrier and angrier the more the scales drop from my eyes.
When will we get a pope that will return the Church to its 1960 year old ways?
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posted on
02/03/2014 1:24:17 PM PST
by
piusv
To: All
We are all united by our common baptism.
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posted on
02/03/2014 2:02:42 PM PST
by
Biggirl
(“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
To: All
Remember the decision to convert is not just only a calling but a lifetime commitment that must not be done during the middle of a personal crisis, when decisions could be made in haste.
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posted on
02/03/2014 2:05:26 PM PST
by
Biggirl
(“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
To: Biggirl
Do you think Protestants need to convert?
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posted on
02/03/2014 2:05:48 PM PST
by
piusv
To: Biggirl
Ah but there's this:
She could do more for both churches if she remained a Protestant, said the Cardinal.
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posted on
02/03/2014 2:07:44 PM PST
by
piusv
To: piusv
“Note: Life-changing decisions should be avoided, if possible, in moments of distress and personal crisis, when reflection and meditation are impossible. But the justification presented by the Cardinal for why she should permanently remain a Protestant obviously influenced her in a permanent way, so that she felt compelled to declare it to others openly.”
Major decisions during personal difficulties should not be made. Wise advice.
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posted on
02/03/2014 2:08:34 PM PST
by
Biggirl
(“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
To: piusv
She was still a Christian though. Common baptism.
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posted on
02/03/2014 2:09:51 PM PST
by
Biggirl
(“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
To: Biggirl
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posted on
02/03/2014 2:10:32 PM PST
by
piusv
To: piusv
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posted on
02/03/2014 2:11:59 PM PST
by
Biggirl
(“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
To: piusv
——Do you think Protestants need to convert?——
Don’t be silly, many Catholics think Protestants are fallen Catholics...lost little sheep...beguilded by Sola Scripture....
Only half tongue in cheek...
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posted on
02/03/2014 2:12:49 PM PST
by
Popman
("Resistance to Tyrants is Obedience to God" - Thomas Jefferson)
To: Biggirl
But she was to do so much more for both churches if she didn’t convert has NOTHING to do with any personal crisis. Did he even suggest giving conversion some thought even in the future? It sounds to me that there was no prodding here what-so-ever. Typical VII.
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posted on
02/03/2014 2:13:10 PM PST
by
piusv
To: Biggirl
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posted on
02/03/2014 2:14:36 PM PST
by
piusv
To: piusv
What it comes down to is that, once the crisis passes, she can begin the effort of what is called discernament when it is not clouded.
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posted on
02/03/2014 2:14:43 PM PST
by
Biggirl
(“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
To: piusv
Did not Jesus command not to “judge” ?
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posted on
02/03/2014 2:16:46 PM PST
by
Biggirl
(“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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