Posted on 02/06/2014 2:39:13 AM PST by markomalley
Msgr Pope ping
bttt
Good article.
Man’s problem is sin. In sin, there is death.
Praise God for His love that brought us The Solution.
In Christ there is abundant life.
Nothing else is adequate.
I just attended a daylong retreat in which we covered this story to a great in-depth extent as it relates to Mary, The New Eve.
One of the points of the discussion that day was that God does not LIE. God said not to eat from the tree or you will die.
Satan LIED/Deceived and said they’d be like gods. At this point you see the actual “birth” of things like pride, lust, greed, and hoarding. And the misplacement of ‘trust’ or as I viewed it at the retreat, literally worship of a false god.
Now here is the ‘funny’ part from that day. The good Father used two props to represent the two trees in the Garden. The Tree of Life and the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. The Tree of Life was represented as the American Flag and the tree of knowledge was an empty microphone stand.
It was an interesting discussion regarding the Father of Lies (Satan) and how he used lies to tempt us away from God and to hoard after material things of this world. And while our discussion was about Eve and Mary, I could not help but see the comparison laid upon our nation and the temptations the democrats put in front of us in the form of equality and fairness of material things.
We also covered how Adam was responsible for protecting Eve, which is what this post from Pope is trying to communicate. Where Adam failed in his duty, Joseph fulfilled with Mary by taking her as his wife. Compare the two stories and one will see the ‘undoing’ of this original sin through the salvation of Jesus Christ in the New Testament.
Like I said it was a daylong retreat and a single post can’t communicate fully the enlightened view of this.
Only have time to skim this article, but seems good. Thanks for posting.
Will be back later to read more closely.
Damn Eve. lol. Can you imagine how incredible our lives would be if she would have left that dang tree alone especially since they had tons of other fruit to eat. That once act changed everything forever.
Eve did more damage to the World than Hitler could ever dream of doing.
Actually you missed the point of the post.
Both of them were present at the temptation, Adam stood there and did nothing, said nothing and then participated in the fall.
Why does Pope place such significance on Adam’s fall, because Adam was in charge of the Garden and all things in the Garden. Note when we refer formally to the fall in the Garden, it is Adam’s Sin.
Read more here: http://blog.adw.org/2010/08/why-is-the-first-sin-called-the-sin-of-adam-not-the-sin-of-adam-and-eve/
So it is interesting to consider that the first sin, may not have been eating that dang apple, but in failure to fulfill one’s responsibility that God has charged you with.
Ping!
...just Wow.
They sure didn’t leave the Garden with Fig leaves over their mouths...
Excellent article! One of the best explanations of original sin that I have ever read/heard! Too often, Christians sound ridiculous when trying to explain sin’s origin in the garden. Most want to get past that, but a true understanding is required in order to see why we needed a redeemer!
Thanks for posting!
I thought it was the first time Adam disagreed with Eve. ;-)
Well said!
Here is the punch-line to this story:
Genesis 3:22 Then the LORD God said, “Behold, the man has become like one of us, knowing good and evil; and now, lest he put forth his hand and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever” — 23 therefore the LORD God sent him forth from the garden of Eden, to till the ground from which he was taken.
From Scripture:
Romans 5
12 Therefore, just as sin entered the world through ONE MAN, and death through sin, and in this way death came to all people, because all sinned—
;-)
Msgr. Pope does a terrific job...per usual.
Thanks for posting.
Remember how Jesus said, it is far worse for a person who knows they are doing something bad than for someone who unknowingly does the same thing? (My paraphrase)
What happened to Adam and Eve was that they became “knowledgeable.” They were doing the same things prior but they didn’t know better. That is why, if you read carefully the scripture quoted above says what it does:
Genesis 3:22 Then the LORD God said, “Behold, the man has become like one of us, knowing good and evil; and now, lest he put forth his hand and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever” — 23 therefore the LORD God sent him forth from the garden of Eden, to till the ground from which he was taken.
What I am saying is that what took place was a good thing, i.e. “God said, “Behold, the man has become like one of us, knowing good and evil” If I Love someone with all my heart and all my soul, I am going to grow toward that person that I Love so much. I will emulate them in any way I can. What happened was God’s will and a part of His Divine Plan.
It was not the original sin, but an awareness of the sin that took place. That’s a good thing.
Not necessarily my opinion, but a different way of looking at the Adam & Eve event.
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