it was the woman’s choice to consent to having a baby before a baby was even conceived to begin with.
That was always her right to say yes or no, so the baby cannot advocate for itself then either, because it does not yet exist.
That consent was denied by the rapist, and that denial of consent is a crime.
The fact that there are women who have indeed chosen to bear the children of rape is proof positive that giving the woman her right to consent does NOT result in automatic abortion.
The course of action they take is up to them, if they choose to murder the baby that that is what they choose.
I have never said that abortion isn’t murder, I do believe that it is. I would also be fine with given them the option to kill the rapist.
Killing happens in this world. In fact, I’d say killing is common. Doesn’t make it right, but killing is a fact of this world.
And yes I am aware scissors being stuck into skulls, and I am not for that or any late term abortion under any circumstance, not even rape or incest.
As another poster asked me to clarify earlier in this thread, if murder is to be done, then it needs to be done early.
And as per your example of being given a gun and killing an innocent person, then the gun giver also being guilty, yes that’s true, but what’s also true is that abortion isn’t viewed the same way legally as a gun crime is, and that is another reality of this world I do not see changing.
Doesn’t make abortion right, and it also doesn’t make abortion not exist anymore either, and just because it’s legal in this world doesn’t mean that people won’t answer for it in the next.
What I have sought to illustrate in this thread, quite simply, is what reality is, and that it isn’t likely to change, in fact it’s likely that it will not change, and I have further stated that I am not for forcing raped women to bear those children, I’m also not for pushing them to abort them either.
So yeah, grey area indeed.
And yes I am aware scissors being stuck into skulls, and I am not for that or any late term abortion under any circumstance, not even rape or incest.Yet you condone, if the mother wishes to, abortion for a 10 week old (from conception) who can feel pain and will back away from the abortionists killing tool as it comes into his/her safe warm place in the mother's womb.
So it should be the mother's choice to have her baby burned or vacuumed to death or chopped into little pieces, all the while feeling the pain of being killed until it's little life is snuffed out completely?
Yeah, that late term abortion stuff is much worse...both MURDER and torture of the most innocent and vulnerable of humans.
You are either completely for or completely against abortion of any kind, make up your mind.