Posted on 02/24/2014 5:51:18 AM PST by xzins
Jesus Christ would absolutely bake a cake for a gay person. He’d bake a cake for a straight person. He’d bake a cake for a girl, a boy, a person who isn’t sure what they are, a black person, a white person — Jesus would bake that cake if it, in some way large or small, drew that person closer to Him.
And Christians should too.
Christians should show love and compassion to gays, straights, and everyone else. Christians should show God’s love in hopes of drawing people to a relationship with Christ. 95% of that may just be relationship building, but it should still be done.
If a Christian owns a bakery or a florist shop or a photography shop or a diner, a Christian should no more be allowed to deny service to a gay person than to a black person. It is against the tenets of 2000 years of orthodox Christian faith, no matter how poorly some Christians have practiced their faith over two millennia.
And honestly, I don’t know that I know anyone who disagrees with any of this.
The disagreement comes on one issue only — should a Christian provide goods and services to a gay wedding. That’s it. We’re not talking about serving a meal at a restaurant. We’re not talking about baking a cake for a birthday party. We’re talking about a wedding, which millions of Christians view as a sacrament of the faith and other, mostly Protestant Christians, view as a relationship ordained by God to reflect a holy relationship.
This slope is only slippery if you grease it with hypotheticals not in play.
There are Christians who have no problem providing goods and services for a gay marriage. Some of them are fine with gay marriage. Some of them think gay marriage is wrong, but they still have no problem providing goods and services.
Other Christians, including a significant number of Catholic and Protestant preachers, believe that a gay marriage is a sinful corruption of a relationship God himself ordained. Because they try to glorify God through their work, they believe they cannot participate in a wedding service. Yes, because they believe they are glorifying God in their work and view it as a ministry, they view providing goods and services as a way to advance, even in a small way, God’s kingdom.
Herein lies the dispute of the day. The latter group does not stand in the way of the former group providing cakes, flowers, and pictures for a gay wedding. Some of the former, however, believe the government should compel the latter group to violate their conscience. They only see the transaction through the customer’s eyes as if the vendors are passive participants.
That’s the problem.
We are not talking about race. We are not talking about restaurants. We are talking about a specific ceremony people of faith believe God himself created and ordained. Should the state force people to violate their conscience in that regard?
It is not staggering that there are aggrieved gay rights activists who think the state should be able to force people to recognize as normal that which most Christians view as sinful. What is staggering is the number of Christians who apparently think the State has the right to decide and enforce this issue.
You might think Jesus would bake a cake for a gay wedding. I think you are wrong. I do not think Jesus Christ would participate in the ratification of a sin — and a marriage between two people of the same sex is a sin. Are you really going to tell the millions of Christians in the United States who think otherwise that not only are they wrong, but the state should be able to force your opinion of what Jesus would do on them? In your pride, you might think 2000 years of Christian orthodoxy and the majority of practicing Christians in the world today are wrong — but don’t think among people of practicing Christian faith you are in the majority.
I understand if you are not a believer and define yourself based on your sexual preference that you think the government should legitimize you by forcing others to treat you in a particular way. But it boggles my mind to think any Christian should want the government to force their view of Christianity on another believer.
If you think the government should be able to force Christians to provide goods and services to a gay wedding or risk losing their business, why not command a preacher’s service? If a Christian baker cannot opt out, why should a preacher be able to opt out? And why not take from churches their tax exempt status if they fail to participate?
Christians should serve. But the government should not force them to.
And that, in a nutshell, is the "end game" the radical "activists" are working for.
the infowarrior
Like the woman at the well Jesus might say go and sin no more.
I disagree with his opening premise. Jesus would not just bake a cake for a gay person. Jesus would offer that person the bread of life IF AND ONLY IF that person repented of practicing homosexual behavior.
Reference the woman at the well. Jesus called her out on her adultery/fornication and showed her how to get eternal life. There is no salvation (cake) without repentence.
I agree that the baker should bake the stupid cake and SELL it to the homo couple.
But, don’t invoke Jesus in this. Jesus would bake them a cake and then say, “Go and sin no more.”
We aren’t allowed to even tell men who lie with other men as if they were women that they are sinners anymore.
If the homos refuse to hear the truth, then Jesus would also tell us to kick the dust off our shoes and get out of there!
Also witness the rich man who chose to keep his riches and walked away from Jesus.
He fed the 5000...
Missed adding this.
Every citizen on these united States has the Constitutional right to discriminate against anyone for any reason, or for no reason at all. Our constitutional rights were stolen from us by the civil rights acts. We no longer have the first ammendment right of association and we need to get it back.
That's pretty much where the author comes down. Cake = fine. Wedding cake = not fine.
And what did he tell them before and after the meal? Did he not show them the way of salvation and what was expected of them to get it? He didn't just shovel the food out there.
Those 5000 were listening to Him.
The basic premise here is a false one. Had the baker simply been asked to bake a cake, I doubt they would have refused.
However, they were asked to make a wedding cake. In Christianity, marriage is a sacrament. Thus, the were asked to help make a mockery of a sacrament, thus committing sacrilege. And Jesus would not take part in sacrilege.
Equating salvation with a piece of cake is at the heart of the logical fallacy in your argument. Jesus fed loaves and fishes to a mass of people, some of whom were surely unsaved. I agree with the author, he would give them cake, just not gay “wedding” cake.
Bull. He said he came not to destroy the scriptures but to fulfill them and sodomy has been condemned again and again in the scriptures. By baking sodomites a cake, He would be endorsing their life style.
These freaks are nothing if not inventive with their propaganda.
Exactly. Jesus offers us more than just the world, but it is entirely on HIS terms. Either accept His terms and live, or refuse them and die.
Don't blame Jesus for not celebrating your sin. Doing so is just gay.
Why are gay people going to carpenters for baked goods? Do they always have to do everything different?
Again He fed them after and during PREACHING to them about what was required of them. He did not approve of their behavior, He came right out and called them on it. Repent and sin no more!
I have to disagree. Jesus had a rather forceful way with merchants who were corrupting His Father’s temple. How would He react to someone corrupting the symbol of His relationship to believers?
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