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To: NYer

Weren’t there roman records from his being brought before Pilot?


3 posted on 03/04/2014 1:55:58 PM PST by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: Vaquero

“What is Truth?”
- Pontius Pilate to Jesus of Nazareth at the latter’s trial.


5 posted on 03/04/2014 2:02:12 PM PST by Westbrook (Children do not divide your love, they multiply it.)
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To: Vaquero

There were a great many Roman records that have perished. I believe one or two of the Fathers claim to have seen the census, but I’m not sure if anyone specifically claims to have seen the records from the trial—it wouldn’t surprise me if Luke and possibly some of the other evangelists had.


6 posted on 03/04/2014 2:02:57 PM PST by Hieronymus ( (It is terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged. --G.K. Chesterton))
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To: Vaquero

I have never been made aware of any.

To the Roman mind Jesus was an utterly routine execution.

I believe we have few official Roman records. Most of what we have is from manuscripts that were recopied repeatedly, and tax rolls and such didn’t quality.


7 posted on 03/04/2014 2:05:28 PM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: Vaquero

Whatever Roman records existed, did not survive to modern times. So Josephus is the oldest non-Christian record we have mentioning Jesus. I agree with the author here: the two statements in Josephus are real, but the second one was expanded by Christian scribes when they copied the manuscripts of Josephus.


8 posted on 03/04/2014 2:08:31 PM PST by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: Vaquero

It’s reasonable that Pilate would want to appear successful in suppressing unrest in Judea. The fewer episodes of Jewish unrest reported to Rome, the better for Pilate. It wouldn’t surprise me if many such executions went unrecorded.


10 posted on 03/04/2014 2:16:57 PM PST by muir_redwoods (When I first read it, " Atlas Shrugged" was fiction)
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To: Vaquero; NYer

I don’t know about pilot, but a friend said, instead of “God is my co-pilot” he preferred to say “God is my navigator.” I guess that I can and do say “Jesus is my navigator” for He puts me on the true path, and reminds me to get back on course when I stray off of it.


22 posted on 03/04/2014 3:53:26 PM PST by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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