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To: matthewrobertolson

Schismatic Catholics (Protestants) reject certain doctrines of the Catholic Church. They propose the primacy of the Bible. Why did they keep the non-Biblical Trinity?


14 posted on 03/14/2014 5:03:26 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: 1010RD; Gamecock
Schismatic Catholics (Protestants) reject certain doctrines of the Catholic Church. They propose the primacy of the Bible. Why did they keep the non-Biblical Trinity?

Are you saying that the Trinity is not found in the Bible, but only within council pronouncements?

17 posted on 03/14/2014 5:06:02 AM PDT by Alex Murphy ("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
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To: 1010RD
Schismatic Catholics (Protestants) reject certain doctrines of the Catholic Church. They propose the primacy of the Bible. Why did they keep the non-Biblical Trinity?

Exactly! The Trinity is never explicitly taught within the Bible.
20 posted on 03/14/2014 5:09:48 AM PDT by matthewrobertolson
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To: 1010RD
Why did they keep the non-Biblical Trinity?

How is the Trinity non-Biblical? Look at Ephesians chapter 1. The first half of it is a praise to the Father, Son and Holy Spirit.

But I agree with an earlier poster. Posts like this only serve to divide rather than unite (another Ephesians theme). We should strive for unity in the church. All believers, all parts working together, not against each other.

23 posted on 03/14/2014 5:11:46 AM PDT by tnlibertarian (Beat Lamar! And, if that doesn't work, let's defeat him in the primary.)
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To: 1010RD

“Schismatic Catholics (Protestants) reject certain doctrines of the Catholic Church.”

Actually, Protestants took the church more seriously than the Catholics of the time, who were behaving badly.

“They propose the primacy of the Bible. Why did they keep the non-Biblical Trinity?”

“they” lol....I assure you lumping all Protestants into “they” is a mistake on your part.


29 posted on 03/14/2014 5:20:36 AM PDT by RFEngineer
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To: 1010RD

We are not schismatics. Rome doesn’t have the gospel. If Rome had a saving gospel you might have a point. When the Reformers attempted to bring Rome back in line with the gospel, Rome dug in her heals and formally codified her apostasy at Trent.


52 posted on 03/14/2014 6:07:29 AM PDT by .45 Long Colt
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To: 1010RD; Old Yeller; matthewrobertolson
Schismatic Catholics (Protestants) reject certain doctrines of the Catholic Church. They propose the primacy of the Bible. Why did they keep the non-Biblical Trinity?

This polemic once again examples the fallacious logic RCs rely on to support there errors. Consistent with this, rather than follow an itinerant Preacher who was rejected by the authoritative magisterium, all first century souls should have submitted to the doctrine of the Scribes and Pharisees over Israel, since unlike a church in Rome, it is expressly confirmed they sat in the seat of Moses (Mt. 23:2) over Israel:

, "because that unto them were committed the oracles of God. Who are Israelites; to whom pertaineth the adoption, and the glory, and the covenants, and the giving of the law, and the service of God, and the promises; Whose are the fathers, and of whom as concerning the flesh Christ came, who is over all, God blessed for ever. Amen." (Romans 9:4-5)

And under them there would be no Messiah, and doctrine of the Diety of Christ and of the Spirit.

In addition, your logic also supposes that the primacy of the Bible excludes the Trinity, while in fact it is its cause. You cannot have Christ being called God, and Him and the Spirit ascribing uniquely Divine attributes, glory and titles to Him unless He is my Lord and my God," (Jn. 20:28), having the same nature as the Father, (Jn. 5:18) proceeding from the Father, light from light, true God from true God, (Jn. 16:27) yet being subject unto Him, (1Cor. 15:28) unless He was God.

Likewise to a lesser degree, the Holy Spirit is shown to be Divine.

Without the Trinity Scripture would contradict itself, while under the composite unity of Scripture all are reconciled.

In contrast, no where do the Scriptures record or prophesy the bodily Assumption of Mary, which even lacks early support from tradition, but as Keating states as regards there strictly being zero proof from Scripture for it, "The mere fact that the Church teaches the doctrine of the Assumption as definitely true is a guarantee that it is true.” — Karl Keating, Catholicism and Fundamentalism (San Francisco: Ignatius, 1988), p. 275.

This might be allowed as speculation, but not as binding doctrine, moreover the the crowning of saints awaits the return of Christ

This is also true of purgatory (which Old Yeller mention thus the ping), with as yet practically imperfect saints being washed, sanctified and justified, accepted in the Beloved, and positionally seated in the heavenly places. (1Cor. 6:11; Eph. 1:6; 2:16).

Thus all the verses which clearly speak of a N.T. believer's postmortem condition (Luke 23:43; Acts 7:59; 1Cor. 15:52; 2 Cor 5:8; Phil. 1:23; 1 Th 4:17; 1Jn. 3:2) show it is with the Lord, in whose presence there is fulness of joy (Ps. 16:11).

All the texts out of which RC extrapolate support for purgatory either refer to having holiness as being a needed attribute of faith, but not moral perfection, or refer to the lost.

And which is based upon an erroneous gospel which typically begins with becoming good enough inside (formally justified due to infused interior charity), via sprinkling, and which usually ends with becoming good enough to enter glory via suffering in purgatory, commencing at death.

Meanwhile, even the EOs reject Rome's purgatory as being not part of tradition.

158 posted on 03/14/2014 12:10:32 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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