**don’t pray to Mary or expect her to help, as she can’t.**
Catholics don’t pray to Mary either. Instead, we ask her to pray for us, and to pass our needs on to her Son.
On infallibility, please check into how many dogmas have been pronounced infallible. I think you will be surprised. And did you know that much doctrine was written in the Didache by the apostles? Imagine that?
Catholics also believe that Christ died on the Cross for our sins.
Where we differ here is that Catholics know they are sinners and need to be forgiven for the sins they commit today. Thus Christ breathed the Holy Spirit onto the Apostles telling them, “Receive the Holy Spirit, whose sins you shall forgive, they are forgiven them, whose sins you shall hold bound, they are held bound.” That’s in your Bible right?
You receive the Gifts of the Holy Spirit at Confirmation and a Catholic is expected to use these gifts. In fact, we all receive a call at our Baptism. What are you doing with your call? OSAS is a false belief.
Catholics don’t pray to Mary either. Instead, we ask her to pray for us, and to pass our needs on to her Son.
What’s the difference? You’re still praying to Mary. Why not just ask Christ Himself? He’ll answer based on His Word.
On infallibility, please check into how many dogmas have been pronounced infallible. I think you will be surprised.
I recall Pope Urban II saying that those who fought in the Crusades would have remission of their sins. I don’t recall that ever being in the Bible anywhere, yet we are to take it that the pope is infallible??
I believe Christ died on the Cross for my sins....past, present and future.
I too, like Paul, know that I am a sinner on a daily basis. In fact, even my good works on my “best” days, are as Paul said, nothing but filthy rags to be discarded. 1 John 1:8 through 1 John 2:6 provides direction on how we are to handle seeking forgiveness of sins.
According to Ephesians 1:1-14 we have the following in Christ:
1) Been blessed with every spiritual blessing
2) Adopted as His sons (see Romans on this also)
3) We have redemption through Him, the forgiveness of our trespasses according to the riches of His GRACE. (again, see Eph 2:8-9)
4) we have obtained an inheritance
5) after hearing the Word and believing the Word we have
6) been SEALED in Him with the Holy Spirit of Promise
7) this is given as a pledge of our inheritance
The Greek tenses of the verbs indicates the sealing is an ongoing process....it doesn’t stop. In other words, once we place our faith and trust in Christ, we are eternally secure based on this and many other passages in the Bible.
On infallibility, please check into how many dogmas have been pronounced infallible. I think you will be surprised.
If you think works will save you I ask the following:
1) how many do you have to do?
2) how do you or your priest know you’ve done the right ones?
3) what if you don’t do enough?
4) what if you’ve done the wrong ones?
5) what about the thief on the cross....no chance for good works....is he saved?
6) do you lose your salvation? what do you have to do to get it back?? if you can?
So what happens if you’ve had a really bad day sin wise and you’re killed in a car wreck. No chance to confess to a priest and your works aren’t good that day.
Have you lost your salvation?
Do you go to Heaven or Hell?
You wrote, “Catholics don’t pray to Mary either. Instead, we ***ask her*** to pray for us, and to pass our needs on to her Son.”
So, you don’t “ask” God for anything? Or you define “prayer” as something besides communicating with God?
Goodness, the linguistic gymnastics you go through to try to say that you “pray” to God but don’t “pray” to Mary ...
Maybe one day you’re come to your senses and reject the twisted doctrines of the corrupted Roman Church and instead embrace Christ’s Church. Yes, that’s offensive. Because the corrupted doctrine you’ve accepted is very offensive.
Oh, baloney.
The internet abounds with well known prayers to Mary asking her for things, not just to pray for us.
On infallibility, please check into how many dogmas have been pronounced infallible. I think you will be surprised. And did you know that much doctrine was written in the Didache by the apostles? Imagine that?
No. It's well past time the Catholics started providing some links to all their assertions instead of denying everything someone else says and then telling them to look it up themselves.
If you don't then the default response by non-Catholics should just be to declare a win as there is no evidence to support the Catholic's contentions, therefore there is no obligation to believe them.
Catholics need to do their own work to support their own assertions and church. Nobody else is interested or willing to do it for y'all.
You receive the Gifts of the Holy Spirit at Confirmation and a Catholic is expected to use these gifts. In fact, we all receive a call at our Baptism. What are you doing with your call? OSAS is a false belief.
The security of the believers is well founded in the following Scripture, some of which is Jesus own words.
Security of the believer
John 5:24 Truly, truly, I say to you, whoever hears my word and believes him who sent me has eternal life. He does not come into judgment, but has passed from death to life.
John 10:25-30 Jesus answered them, “I told you, and you do not believe. The works that I do in my Father's name bear witness about me, but you do not believe because you are not among my sheep. My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me. I give them eternal life, and they will never perish, and no one will snatch them out of my hand. My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all, and no one is able to snatch them out of the Father's hand. I and the Father are one.”
Ephesians 1:13-14 In him you also, when you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation, and believed in him, were sealed with the promised Holy Spirit, who is the guarantee of our inheritance until we acquire possession of it, to the praise of his glory.
Ephesians 4:30 And do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God, by whom you were sealed for the day of redemption.
Colossians 1:13-14 He has delivered us from the domain of darkness and transferred us to the kingdom of his beloved Son, in whom we have redemption, the forgiveness of sins.
Colossians 3:3 For you have died, and your life is hidden with Christ in God.
2 Corinthians 1:21-22 And it is God who establishes us with you in Christ, and has anointed us, and who has also put his seal on us and given us his Spirit in our hearts as a guarantee.
2 Corinthians 5:4-8 For while we are still in this tent, we groan, being burdened—not that we would be unclothed, but that we would be further clothed, so that what is mortal may be swallowed up by life. He who has prepared us for this very thing is God, who has given us the Spirit as a guarantee.
So we are always of good courage. We know that while we are at home in the body we are away from the Lord, for we walk by faith, not by sight. Yes, we are of good courage, and we would rather be away from the body and at home with the Lord.
“Catholics don’t pray to Mary either. Instead, we ask her to pray for us, and to pass our needs on to her Son.”
And so again is the pattern I see time and again for Catholics to defend themselves from clear transgressions: if X conflicts with scripture, then simply define X as not conflicting with scripture. Pray to Mary? clearly wrong, so we’re just talking to Mary, not praying to her. Worshiping saints? well, that would violate idol worship, so the fact that we’re kneeling in front of a statue lighting candles and fervently begging the dead for favors is, by definition, not worship because worship is defined as something oddly other than what every non-catholic, scripture included, defines it as. Numerous repetitions? clearly condemned by Christ himself, so just define an hour of Hail Marys as not...something condemned. 10,000 years in Purgatory cleanses the not-really-bad of their sins? well, yeah that somehow doesn’t violate “no one comes to the Father but by Me”.
Someone correct me if this slim volume doesn’t take pretty much the same reasoning for some 200 pages.
Why?
Can't Jesus handle the load all by Himself?
Why would GOD need a HUMAN to block for Him?
A distinction without a difference. Honestly. Asking is praying, and beseeching someone invisible in Heaven to obtain favors is certain what is seen in Scripture as praying. But which is NEVER exampled in Scripture as addressed to anyone in glory except the Lord.
Or taught. The Lord did not say "our mother who art in Heaven," nor does the Holy Spirit cry "mama, mama," but "abba, Father." (Gal. 4:6) Hearing multitudes of prayer is a prerogative, privilege and attribute only ascribed to almighty God, and is a mark of the Divinity of Christ, who alone is the mediator btwn man and God the Father. You cannot extrapolate support from this from praying to others hear on earth. More .
On infallibility, please check into how many dogmas have been pronounced infallible.
You tell us. How many infallible teachings are there total? Or is this yet another things RCs can disagree on?