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Of the Viet Cong and Radical Feminist Nuns
WDTPRS ^ | 3/20/2014 | Fr John Zuhlsdorf

Posted on 03/20/2014 7:17:54 PM PDT by markomalley

I’ll bet that some of you younger readers don’t know who the Viet Cong were and what they did.

They started as a tiny groups or cadres of committed Communists, insurgents, in the south of Vietnam, after the end of the Indo-China War in 1954.  Communist front-groups formed, such as the Saigon-Cholon Peace Committee, the Executive Committee of the Fatherland Front, the Vietnam-Cambodian Buddhist Association,  the Alliance of National, Democratic, and Peace Forces. These front groups gave cover for and organized Communist insurgents and guerrillas, masking the activities of their community organizers.  The Viet Cong was the conglomeration of groups would be called, became the military arm of the National Liberation Front.  The VCs embarked in savage assassination campaigns, committed horrible atrocities to intimidate opposition, developed a political branch, opened up the Ho Chi Minh Trail, etc.  Their various units wore no insignia.  They were ideological guerrillas, insurgents, terrorists.

The Viet Cong are fascinating.  They are yet another of history’s examples of how small groups engaged in unrestricted asymetrical tactics can bring a large and well-supplied organized military machine to a grinding blood-stained halt.

What’s this about?

The other day I posted How tiny liberal loon crank groups provide cover and distraction for larger, more dangerous initiatives.

In that post I pointed out how someone whom, for good reason, no one has heard of (Patricia Miller), editor of something no one has heard of (“Conscience magazine, the leading journal of pro-choice Catholic thought”), put out a blog opinion piece about an obscure group of weird radical nuns (the National Coalition of American Nuns – NCAN -which campaigns for women’s ordination, headed up by abortion-promotress Sr. Donna Quinn of the Sinsinawa Dominicans, who makes parody redundant).

NCAN supports the Obama administration’s efforts to impose the pro-contraception, pro-abortion HHS Mandate on religious institutions such as the Little Sisters of the Poor and Hobby Lobby.

NCAN says openly what the leaders of the LCWR can’t say openly. Consider NCAN a front group.

Now I see that the Ho Chi Minh Trail of cable news, MSNBC, picked up the story.

Somebody no one has ever heard of, Irin Carmon picked up in the insignificant news about the nun splinter group. What are the other things Irin has written about?

Irin seems to be obsessed with abortion and others matters uterine.

So, from Irin at MSNBC we find:

Nuns take sides as contraception fight heads to the Supreme Court

[...]

The Catholic Church formally opposes contraception, ["formally?  What does that mean?  That the Church can then "formally" change its position, as if opposition is a mere "policy"?  "Formally" as in the Church turns a blind eye? ] and the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops in particular has taken an active role in criticizing the contraceptive coverage mandate in Obamacare. ["taken an active role".... and... so?  No, wait.  The point is, no one is permitted to critize what Obama does, much less be a ring-leader in criticism.  But there's more...] But this isn’t the first time nuns have shown independence on an issue. [Hurray!  Nuns showing "independence" is a good thing!  "Independence" is good, right?] In 2012, a Vatican group rebuked [LOL!  The CDF is a "Vatican group", now.  The ignorance here is a hoot.  And, remember, "rebuking" is bad, especially when women are the rebuke-ees.] the Leadership Conference of Women Religious for espousing ”radical feminist themes incompatible with the Catholic faith.”  [More on the LCWR and NCAN, below.]

That prompted one commentator to reach for the b-word [This is misdirection... read on.] in a rather different context. ”Women are not capable, in the Vatican’s mind, ["the Vatican's mind"?!?  Who's writing this garbage?] of governing others or even themselves,” wrote Gary Wills [Him again?  Embittered anti-Catholic.] in the New York Review of Books. “Is it any wonder so many nuns have left the orders or avoided joining them? Who wants to be bullied?”  [That's the "b-word" Irin meant, not the other one.  And women are joining communities of traditional sisters, communities which don't belong to the LCWR or subscribe to its radical feminist tenets.]

Supporters of the contraceptive coverage provisions plan to rally outside the Court on March 25, the day oral arguments are heard in the Hobby Lobby case.  [That's an advertisement, btw.]

As I watch this unfold, what pops into my head are Alinsky-style Chicago-based community organizers, the Viet Cong and the Ho Chi Minh Trail.

Again, as I wrote the other day, liberals have coalitions of myriad groups. They front for other, much larger groups.  The small groups provide cover and distraction and coordination for what the larger groups are really up to.  This is a common feature of the Left’s activity.  They work together, cover each other’s tracks, carry each other’s water, present a united front.



Not from an opening ceremony of an LCWR meeting.


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To: Talisker

My personal experiences of Nam are never far away, just sayin’.

I will take your statement of the original analogy into account, however. Are these “Catholic” nuns totally accepting of abortion!? That sounds verrrrry radical, IMO.


22 posted on 03/21/2014 3:39:59 PM PDT by elcid1970 ("In the modern world, Muslims are living fossils.")
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They’re basically heretics. Why the Catholic Church hasn’t ex-communicated them is beyond not only me, but a whole lot of people.

And yeah, more to the point, they’re pro-abortion - up to and including partial birth abortion. Not to mention being openly socialist under the guise of feminism.

And they have a lot of involvement with Democrat politics - a LOT. You could call them Catholics In Name Only, because that’s what they are. They’re the Catholic version of Muslims - using religion as a cover for totalitarian collectivism.


23 posted on 03/21/2014 4:05:04 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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And yeah, more to the point, they’re pro-abortion - up to and including partial birth abortion. Not to mention being openly socialist under the guise of feminism.

Yes, it sounds like they are CINO, but it is evil for sure. My opinion is, that I do not separate radical feminism from socialism. I think the two go hand in hand. My question is, however, are these radical feminist/pro abortion nuns pretty much limited to America, or is it much wider than that?

24 posted on 03/21/2014 6:59:58 PM PDT by Mark17 (Chicago Blackhawks: Stanley Cup champions 2010, 2013. Vietnam Vet 70-71 Msgt US Air Force, retired)
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To: WVKayaker

Hello


25 posted on 03/21/2014 7:09:22 PM PDT by Mark17 (Chicago Blackhawks: Stanley Cup champions 2010, 2013. Vietnam Vet 70-71 Msgt US Air Force, retired)
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My question is, however, are these radical feminist/pro abortion nuns pretty much limited to America, or is it much wider than that?

I don't know. But I do know that totalitarian collectivism itself is global.

However funny thing - socialist countries (or parliamentarian Western crypto-socialist countries) often have very clear-cut divisions between politics and religion. Oftentimes, the more left-wing the country, the more strict the religions. It's like once the political veneer is stripped away and the progressives come into open power, they don't need to keep undermining religions - and it becomes much harder, because they aren't hiding what they are anymore.

But America? The political lies in this country are so thick, and the people are so confused, that messing with religion is still extremely high on the collectivist battle agenda.

But consider the level of personal perversion required of those actually doing the dirty work - of fronting religion in order to psyop their victims into accepting totalitarianism as a necessary enforcer for feminism. Talk about twisted - and talk about evil! Mount together that many deadly lies, and don't be surpised when you find a viciousness behind it that rivals satan.

26 posted on 03/21/2014 7:12:30 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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It appears that Fred’s mantle has been passed.


27 posted on 03/21/2014 7:29:04 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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