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To: Faith Presses On; Viennacon; JPX2011; TigerClaws; Insigne123; fatima; stars & stripes forever; ...
I find your story absolutely believable. Catholic Charities )in many places) and Catholic Relief Services are little more than government social service agencies.

(All the data below is self-reported data from Charity Navigator)

Note that Catholic Relief Services gets over 60% of their funding from government sources

Take a look at some of these local Catholic Charities' funding sources:

Catholic Charities Atlanta:

New Orleans:

East Bay (Oakland, etc):

Spokane:

And the winner (so far as I've seen), San Francisco:

Now, don't get me wrong, there are a few local diocesan Catholic Charities that do not take government funding. But they are the exception rather than the rule.

And keep in mind that many of the local Catholic Charities (to include DC, NYC, and Boston) don't even participate in Charity Navigator...so I shudder to think how much of their funding comes from the government.

The trouble is that when the government is so deeply embedded in the funding stream for these organizations, this is, of course, going to impact how they view the world. If you look at the political positions taken by CRS or Catholic Charities, they always oppose any kind of brakes being put on by Congress to bring spending under control. And, considering where they get their money, of course that would be the case.

The other thing with government funding is that a stipulation provided is that they have to provide services (including, in your case, counseling services) without regard to the religion of the person to whom they provide the service and with no religious content provided to that client. So, again, looking at your situation, rather than receiving the spiritual direction you needed, you got what was essentially secular psychological counseling.

This is not an apology for Catholic Charities. It is a condemnation. These agencies have made the foundational mistake of yoking themselves to unbelievers and being dragged down the road of perdition where they are being led by their secular sugar daddies.

There are a few examples where the Church has reigned in Catholic Charities. In Southern Illinois, faced with a rebellion on the part of the employees, the bishops cut them off. In Boston and DC (to the bishops' credit and my surprise), they stopped performing adoption work altogether. But those are the exception and only happened because Sugar Daddy (a/k/a the government) pushed a little too hard too fast.

I absolutely refuse to give one red cent to Catholic Charities USA, Catholic Relief Services, and my local diocesan Catholic Charities. The reason: they are little more than government social service agencies and, thank you very much, I already pay enough in taxes. My money will go to something else that is not so dependent. Like, for example, the Little Sisters of the Poor...who take NO government money for their important mission.

I would encourage my fellow Catholic FReepers to think hard before supporting these quasi-government agencies through second collections or mail-based fundraising drives.

33 posted on 03/26/2014 3:38:33 AM PDT by markomalley (Nothing emboldens the wicked so greatly as the lack of courage on the part of the good -- Leo XIII)
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To: markomalley
In Boston and DC (to the bishops' credit and my surprise), they stopped performing adoption work altogether. But those are the exception and only happened because Sugar Daddy (a/k/a the government) pushed a little too hard too fast.

In Massachusetts, they facilitated thirteen adoptions by homosexual couples before they were exposed. They ceased facilitating adoptions because compliance with Church teaching conflicts with state licensing requirements. Putting up a legal fight would have put a damper on corporate and private donations (the St. Paddy's Day parade sponsorship withdrawals serve as a recent example of the financial punishment that goes with the territory).

I absolutely refuse to give one red cent to Catholic Charities USA, Catholic Relief Services, and my local diocesan Catholic Charities. The reason: they are little more than government social service agencies and, thank you very much, I already pay enough in taxes. My money will go to something else that is not so dependent. Like, for example, the Little Sisters of the Poor...who take NO government money for their important mission.

I couldn't agree more. Support authentically Catholic ministries, those that serve the Church without compromising Her teachings.

40 posted on 03/26/2014 8:38:10 AM PDT by BlatherNaut
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“I would encourage my fellow Catholic FReepers to think hard before supporting these quasi-government agencies through second collections or mail-based fundraising drives. “
Amen,Throw the envelope out.We do a little non-profit homeless interfaith group and a few small Catholic groups that are local.


41 posted on 03/26/2014 8:41:43 AM PDT by fatima (Free Hugs Today :))
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To: markomalley
Thanks for the information. Wow, amazing what happens when an organization takes secular government dollars. They become like them!

Then on another thread we have a Protestant/Evangelical relief agency voluntarily hiring same sex “couples” because some of their supporters (read donors) don't “condemn” such practices (read sin). So the spirit of anti-christ abounds everywhere and knows no church or denominational boundaries.

The only “good news” story from that piece was the overwhelming rebukes from prominent Protestant and Evangelical pastors and theologians.

42 posted on 03/26/2014 8:48:53 AM PDT by redleghunter (But let your word 'yes be 'yes,' and your 'no be 'no.' Anything more than this is from the evil one.)
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To: markomalley
Thank you for your input. I agree completely that ALL religious organizations (churches, schools, community aid, etc.) are actually harmed by accepting government funds. The reasons churches are disallowed from advising their membership on how and who they should vote is because of the threat of removal of tax exempt status. If we look back to the first century, Peter was given a miracle in order to meet the taxes they had to pay (Matthew 17:27). Government basically hamstrings church leaders from promoting sound and Biblical secular candidates. I say, pay the taxes, do what is right and God WILL honor and provide.

The Bible college I attended refused to be accredited by the state because, to do so, they would have to agree to their restrictions and mandates. I think it was a wise decision and maybe this whole state-funded charities trap should be readdressed by churches.

53 posted on 03/26/2014 12:52:59 PM PDT by boatbums (Simul justis et peccator.)
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