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Pope accepts resignation of German 'bling bishop'
DW ^ | 26.03.2014

Posted on 03/26/2014 5:26:38 AM PDT by Gamecock

The announcement from the Vatican on Wednesday said Pope Francis had accepted Tebartz-van Elst's resignation.

Tebartz-van Elst, who served as bishop of the diocese of Limburg, announced in October that the cost of a renovation project on his residence and offices would be 31 million euros ($42.7 million), far beyond the original estimate of 5.5 million euros.

Germans were outraged over the possible misuse of church funds, which come from donations and a special "church tax" paid by registered parishioners to their respective denominations.

There was also an outcry that Tebartz-van Elst may have flown first class on a trip to India where he visited impoverished communities. He paid a 20,000 euro fine for making false statements in court regarding the flight.

Pope Francis had temporarily relieved Tebartz-van Elst from his duties after the two met in October but had not accepted the bishop's resignation – which was offered at the time – until now.

In a statement, the Vatican said Tebartz-van Elst would be given a new post "at an opportune time" and that it hoped Catholics in Limburg would "rediscover a climate of charity and reconciliation."

Last month, a report in the German news magazine Spiegel suggested an internal church commission investigation on Tebartz-van Elst had found evidence that the cost of the new residence was even higher than 31 million euros.

In addition, money had been siphoned off from at least one church foundation within the bishop's diocese to finance the building and renovation project, according to the report.

Manfred Grothe, an apostolic administrator from Paderborn, is to take charge of the diocese of Limburg until a replacement for Tebartz-van Elst's is named.


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1 posted on 03/26/2014 5:26:38 AM PDT by Gamecock
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To: Gamecock

Good news for the people of Limburg.


2 posted on 03/26/2014 5:35:30 AM PDT by FourtySeven (47)
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To: Gamecock
the Vatican said Tebartz-van Elst would be given a new post "at an opportune time"

Bad news for the next group.

3 posted on 03/26/2014 5:46:54 AM PDT by xone
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To: xone

As is often the case with the RCs.


4 posted on 03/26/2014 5:48:28 AM PDT by Gamecock (Atheists: “There is no God and I hate Him.”)
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To: Gamecock

Want me to tell you about grinning Joel Osteen’s 10 million dollar estate or the slew of other protestant “preachers” who have made an absolute fortune off milking their gullible flock?


5 posted on 03/26/2014 6:44:56 AM PDT by NKP_Vet ("To be deep in history is to cease being Protestant" - John Henry Cardinal Newman)
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Want me to tell you about grinning Joel Osteen’s 10 million dollar estate or the slew of other protestant “preachers” who have made an absolute fortune off milking their gullible flock?

Yes.

Post em if you got em.

Posting linked information about graft, greed and avarice is always fully acceptable on FR.

6 posted on 03/26/2014 6:56:34 AM PDT by Col Freeper (FR: A smorgasbord of Conservative Mindfood - dig in and enjoy it!)
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To: NKP_Vet; Gamecock
Want me to tell you about grinning Joel Osteen’s 10 million dollar estate or the slew of other protestant “preachers” who have made an absolute fortune off milking their gullible flock?

Yes.

Post em if you got em.

Posting linked information about graft, greed and avarice is always fully acceptable on FR.

7 posted on 03/26/2014 6:56:53 AM PDT by Col Freeper (FR: A smorgasbord of Conservative Mindfood - dig in and enjoy it!)
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To: NKP_Vet
Want me to tell you about grinning Joel Osteen’s 10 million dollar estate or the slew of other protestant “preachers” who have made an absolute fortune off milking their gullible flock?

Do so if you want, but I beat you to it:

Joel Osteen's $10.5 Million Mansion
Furtick Prepares His Church for News Report About His 16,000 SF "Not That Great of a House" Mansion

Feel free to post others and I will include them in the YBPDLN archives.

8 posted on 03/26/2014 7:04:59 AM PDT by Gamecock (Atheists: “There is no God and I hate Him.”)
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To: Col Freeper; NKP_Vet

And ping me if you do! That way I can include them on my Ping List: The YBPDLN!


9 posted on 03/26/2014 7:06:11 AM PDT by Gamecock (Atheists: “There is no God and I hate Him.”)
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To: NKP_Vet

Tell me more of these Protestant slews.


10 posted on 03/26/2014 8:06:34 AM PDT by laotzu
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To: NKP_Vet

Can we do the Taoists next? I hate those guys.


11 posted on 03/26/2014 8:08:23 AM PDT by laotzu
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To: laotzu

Taoists? Those guys have scandals up the yin-yang!

: )


12 posted on 03/26/2014 8:11:05 AM PDT by married21 ( As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.)
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To: Gamecock
In a statement, the Vatican said Tebartz-van Elst would be given a new post "at an opportune time" and that it hoped Catholics in Limburg would "rediscover a climate of charity and reconciliation."

The people are supposed to put up with the corruption that exists within Catholicism because the guy has been *reassigned* and that takes care of the problem?

NOT!

Until Catholics stop defending the indefensible, the immorality and corruption will continue.

Problem is, that would make them reformers, trying to correct error within Catholicism, making them like Luther, the very man they most despise.

So they're forced into accepting the Church as it is and defending the indefensible.

13 posted on 03/26/2014 8:44:58 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith....)
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If they are serious lock him away in a monastery somewhere for the rest of his life.

Now of course the underlying question is why did he think this was appropriate behavior? Some mentors somewhere doing the same?

14 posted on 03/26/2014 10:05:15 AM PDT by Gamecock (Atheists: “There is no God and I hate Him.”)
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To: Gamecock

Yes, he’s finally out; and while I have no ask to grind for or against this bishop, those who are cheering should at least know what is going on. And, indeed, maybe everyone does, but they just happen to view the Catholic Church in a different way that I do.

This bishop, unlike most of the other German bishops, is a conservative bishop that is despised by the media and most of his fellow liberal German bishops––most of whom are as far left as any other Catholics in the Church. There is a 60 year history of this diocese (limberg) of almost total capitulation to modernism/progressivism. It is unlike any other diocese in Europe, if not the world. The former bishop (Bishop Franz Kamphaus) of this diocese actually dictated to John Paul II who was fearful of removing him for fear of a schism in that part of the world. When Pope Benedict appointed Tebartz van Elst, the media and the liberal bishop set out to destroy someone who they considered no less than an infidel in their midst.

The issue involving the episcopal “mansion” was completely distorted by the media. The $31 M figure that is often thrown around included the costs involving a number of other related structures, including a diocesan center and other buildings. Moreover, the construction (actually reconstruction as it was a former episcopal quarters that went unused for many years and had to be renovated) was handled by a committee (not the bishop), and it had commenced years before he was appointed. There are some very points of view from more conservative Catholic sites (e.g. http://www.crisismagazine.com/2014/the-real-scandal-in-germany) that are generally ignored. All that I have read paint a very different view of this matter.

But there is no disagreement in the fact that this is a bishop who the German Bishops Conference considers a “Ratzingerarian” and they have been doing everything in their power to oust him since he was installed. Archbishop Mueller, who did support him, was his last hope. Obviously that didn’t work out so well. But when you recognize that Tebartz van Elst was one of the few bishops in Germany who has come out publicly against homosexual marriages and for continuing a strict (Catholic) position on marriage, divorce and receiving the sacraments. His departure will be a loss for those who were hoping (and some times almost believing) that the Church may still turn around. So cheer on if you wish, but at least know what side of the street you are rooting to succeed.


15 posted on 03/26/2014 10:27:16 AM PDT by tomsbartoo (St Pius X watch over us)
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Excellent post. Thanks.


16 posted on 03/26/2014 4:43:00 PM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: tomsbartoo

The German Church seems to be going the same way as the other western European churches. Look at the Netherlands and Belgium.


17 posted on 03/26/2014 10:52:48 PM PDT by RobbyS (quotes)
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