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To: annalex; daniel1212
alex --- This kind of stuff;

is getting personal, telling him he is "denying" half of what he reads, or trying to, which is just your own personal opinion of dan. More true in this particular instance is perhaps the opposite, in more ways than one (like reading on to verse 63)...but never mind all of that, for now.

Discuss the issues (here of late, or at this juncture that being --scripture and theology) and not the person of another here -- as much as possible. Thank you.

Please review for all of that helps explain why.

59 posted on 04/19/2014 11:28:42 PM PDT by BlueDragon (A ship in the harbor is safe, but that is not what ships are for)
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To: BlueDragon; daniel1212
BD and Daniel, have a blessed Resurrection celebration, FRiends. :)

Peace,

SR

61 posted on 04/20/2014 12:20:30 AM PDT by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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To: BlueDragon; daniel1212
telling him he is "denying" half of what he reads, or trying to, which is just your own personal opinion of dan.

It is, of course my opinion, but I base it on the post Dan made to me. The summary of them is that he denies Christ meant what he said about the Eucharist, to wit: "this is my body, which is given for you" and "my flesh is meat indeed" and "Except you eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, you shall not have life in you. He that eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath everlasting life: and I will raise him up in the last day". And on another topic: renaming Bar Jona "Rock" was not naming Bar-Jona after God; the promise of the keys was not the promise of ability to determine people's salvation; the "binding and loosing" was not an expression of supreme judicial ability of Peter and of the Church in all matters. I understand that Dan follows the line of thinking common to virtually all Protestants and you guys have forgotten that at root of this is denial, obfuscation and explaining away the clear text of the Holy Scripture. Nevertheless that is what it is. When Christ says "This is my body" and you argue "no, He meant 'this is a sign of my body'", -- then you deny the scripture on that point. I am not trying to insult Dan's person, I point out the horrific implications of his posts.

70 posted on 04/20/2014 3:39:28 PM PDT by annalex (fear them not)
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