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To: Springfield Reformer; Iscool
In Acts 6:8 we don't even have "grace"; there are no neologisms either:
πληρης πιστεως και δυναμεως

Why St. Jerome translated "grace" instead of "faith" I don't know.

The only other use of "κεχαριτωμενη" is in Ecclesiasticus (Sirach) 18:17

Ecclesiasticus (Sirach)
  English: Douay-Rheims Greek OT: LXX [A] Unaccented English: King James Version
  Ecclesiasticus (Sirach) 18
17 Lo, is not a word better than a gift? but both are with a justified man. ουκ ιδου λογος υπερ δομα αγαθον και αμφοτερα παρα ανδρι κεχαριτωμενω Lo, is not a word better than a gift? but both are with a gracious man.

KJV again is working hard to obscure the Bible: Mary is "highly favored" but the idealized "son" in Sirach is "gracious", -- same word and similar context. Mary is described as "full of grace" in Luke and the idealized son as "justified" in Sirach, and indeed he is to be "justified" in anticipation of "the wrath that shall be at the last day" (Ibid. 18:24). The juxtaposition of these two occurrences of κεχαριτωμενος explain the intended meaning of the Archangel's address to Mary: she, while a young girl, is already like the saints in heaven, the justified.

82 posted on 04/23/2014 5:35:54 AM PDT by annalex (fear them not)
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To: annalex
In Acts 6:8 we don't even have "grace"; there are no neologisms either:

Which is exactly why I mentioned the critical text, which does indeed have "grace": πληρης χαριτος, and is used in a great many modern translations.

KJV again is working hard to obscure the Bible:

Sorry, but that is not the case according to the evidence. We already talked about the very wide dynamic range of xaris. "Favored" here fits nicely, but certainly allows for Pauline notions of grace, though it would be awkward at best to impose Paul's specialized lexicon on Dr. Luke.

But in any event such grace is not unique to Mary, and cannot be made so by a particular conjugation. Whatever applies to her through that term applies even more so through Paul's application of it to all believers in Ephesians 1:6. Every believer is a saint. All believers are justified in Christ. All believers are highly favored of God. All believers have been accepted in the Beloved. On and on. I am happy for Mary. I am happy for all who believe. God's gift to us has been amazing, and will only become more amazing as the ages roll on.

83 posted on 04/23/2014 7:56:57 AM PDT by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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