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To: ravenwolf
The problem I have with many Protestant Churches is that they base all most every thing on Pauls writings, and while I believe Paul was a believer I am not sure he was an apostle, too many contradictions.

Paul claimed he was an apostle and Peter claimed what Paul wrote was God breathed scripture...If Paul wasn't an apostle, Peter then doesn't have any credibility either...

Too many contradictions with Paul??? I'm glad to see someone claim there are contradictions...When I started out I saw contradictions as well...But I knew the scriptures couldn't contradict themselves so the error had to be on my end somehow...And it was...

150 posted on 04/22/2014 6:53:54 PM PDT by Iscool (Ya mess with me, you mess with the WHOLE trailer park...)
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To: Iscool
I'm glad to see someone claim there are contradictions...

It's been going on a LONG time...



NIV 2 Peter 3:16

He writes the same way in all his letters, speaking in them of these matters. His letters contain some things that are hard to understand, which ignorant and unstable people distort, as they do the other Scriptures, to their own destruction.

163 posted on 04/23/2014 4:48:53 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Iscool

Too many contradictions with Paul??? I’m glad to see someone claim there are contradictions...When I started out I saw contradictions as well...


Yes, it was the same here and then I decided that there only seemed to be contradictions because Paul was speaking to the gentiles and the others were speaking to the Jews.

More recently a few things have been pointed out to me.

Rev 2
1
“To the angel of the church in Ephesus write:
These are the words of him who holds the seven stars in his right hand and walks among the seven golden lampstands.

2
I know your deeds, your hard work and your perseverance. I know that you cannot tolerate wicked people, that you have tested those who claim to be apostles but are not, and have found them false.

2 Timothy 1:15
15 You know that everyone in the province of Asia has deserted me, including Phygelus and Hermogenes.

I think Ephesus is the only church in rev that was considered one of Pauls churches and wasn’t it in Asia?

1 Corinthians 9
1
Am I not free? Am I not an apostle? Have I not seen Jesus our Lord? Are you not the result of my work in the Lord?

2
Even though I may not be an apostle to others, surely I am to you! For you are the seal of my apostleship in the Lord.

3
This is my defense to those who sit in judgment on me.

Some one in Asia was saying that Paul was not an apostle, could it be the church at Ephesus?

So if it does not fit why is Paul defending himself?

Paul seemed to make it a point to mention his apostleship many times

We know that there is no evidence of Paul being called an apostle except by himself, we can also see that the other apostles did not exalt their self as being apostles.

Mathew 24
26
Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not.

If we can believe Paul was contacted by Jesus in the dessert or secret chambers why can`t we believe Joseph Smith was? and I certainly do not.

Paul told the church at Galatia that the only instructions given to him at the council of Jerusalem was
Gal 2
10 Only they would that we should remember the poor; the same which I also was forward to do.

But the actual account was a little different.
Acts 15
20 But that we write unto them, that they abstain from pollutions of idols, and from fornication, and from things strangled, and from blood.

Why did Paul circumcise Timothy after criticizing Peter for being a hypocrite and going with the circumcised crowed?, was he afraid too?
Acts 16:1-3

Most of the above was pointed out to me by some one else plus like you said I had already noticed a few myself and there are many more, some I take with a grain of salt, a few I do not agree with.

But we do need to remember it was the Catholic Church who decided what is God given scripture.

http://www.problemswithpaul.com/

As I said I do not agree with every thing but there are many things that make a lot of sense.


169 posted on 04/23/2014 7:21:14 AM PDT by ravenwolf
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