Posted on 04/29/2014 2:55:24 PM PDT by NYer
i have a few questions:
do leftists need this or any justification for having their babies aborted? or do they already think abortion is the best thing for their babies? answers: no and yes, resp.
can the will of God be thwarted by a woman, man or abortionist? answer: No.
will God render perfect justice for the murdered unborn? answer: yes.
do we on earth have to continue to fight this abomination of abortion? answer: yes, lest we be complicit.
thus. i’m content. this leftist premise matters not to me.
I think it’s a reasonable conjecture, but it has no basis in scripture, and seems to be at odds with the recorded participants in the first resurrection. As long as we all know it is a super-scriptural supposition...
Jesus promised the thief on the cross that day he would be WITH JESUS in Paradise. Some people don't see that as going to heaven, but we must remember that Jesus took everybody in Paradise with Him to heaven (Eph. 4:8). Now, did the Roman soldiers took the thief from the cross, down to the Brook Kidron, had him baptized and nailed him back to the cross? Of course not! Even if you don't agree that salvation comes before baptism, at least you have to agree that there are some "exceptions" when a person could go to heaven without baptism (and I am NOT suggesting that baptism is not essential to the Christian). Could God "make an exception" for aborted babies? Of course He can, and if necessary He will.
Personally I believe that baptism follows salvation, and that unborn babies and children under the age of accountability go straight to heaven. Like Paul said "Shall we continue in sin that grace may abound? Certainly not! (Ro 6:1,2). Mothers should not sin by killing their babies in order to make grace abound (get them into heaven).
http://www.gotquestions.org/aborted-babies-heaven.html
The fate of the ‘should be’ mother, without belief in Jesus, is more certain.
I don’t see that implication anywhere in there, but OK.
Would an aborted baby have a Baptism of Blood like other martyrs?
2 Samuel 12:23 (David speaking about the baby he had with Bathsheba.)
And Paul in Romans 7:9 (children before the age of accountability.)
(Amplified Bible:)
1 Corinthians 7:14 For the unbelieving husband is set apart (separated, withdrawn from heathen contamination, and affiliated with the Christian people) by union with his consecrated (set-apart) wife, and the unbelieving wife is set apart and separated through union with her consecrated husband. Otherwise your children would be unclean (unblessed heathen, outside the Christian covenant), but as it is they are prepared for God [pure and clean].
IMHO, only children who have at least one saved parent (better that both parents be saved) go to heaven if they die before the “age of accountability”.
“Not only that, but Rebekah’s children were conceived at the same time by our father Isaac. Yet, before the twins were born or had done anything good or bad—in order that God’s purpose in election might stand: not by works but by him who calls—she was told, “The older will serve the younger.” Just as it is written: “Jacob I loved, but Esau I hated.” —Romans 9
An interesting twist. I tend to think babies go to be with The Lord.
“The Bible does not specifically say whether or not an unborn child who dies goes to heaven. Without a clear passage, we can only speculate.”
Not only that, but as to whether humans go to heaven AT ALL, other than perhaps a brief stopover, is dubious.
David said he would be with his dead child after he died, but it never said at what location.
The story of Lazarus and the Rich Man seems to give a description that those under God’s grace went to a mostly pleasant place (which some call Abram’s Bosom or some call Paradise). This place seems to be far from the perfect heaven since you are in the midst of those who are suffering in their punishment.
Romans 7:9 says “For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died.”
I have no idea how you can get “age of accountability”. If there is “age of accountability” then is there “intelligence of accountability?” “Time Era of accountability?” “Geographic residence of accountability? “
That sounds beautiful, but it won’t work. A martyr is a person who suffers persecution, even death, for his beliefs. An unborn baby does not have beliefs, so I would not consider him “other martyr”. It’s like if I go out, get in my car, and die in a wreck, that wouldn’t make me a martyr, would it? I think there is a special dispensation of grace for babies and young children just like in Deuteronomy 1:39 the children of the Israelites are allowed to enter the Promised Land and they did not share in their parents’ punishment.
The wife and I saw it and enjoyed it. My wife is not religious and got choked up over several scenes.
Bookmarked.
There are two things we do not know about heaven and that is A to Z but I believe those babies are in Gods hands, he has a way.
I should have put a disclaimer on Ann's article. The makes *many* statements I do NOT endorse. I realize I called her a "wise woman", so I brung it on myself.
Please give me a small penance (like, I could genuflect on my sore left knee" and then permit me back into the land of FR respectability, I beg you.
I promise I won't do it again!!
Absolutely true...nor does it lower the killer's likelihood. Notice Paul, who relished and participated in the murder of innocent believers. Notice David, who stealthily sent Uriah to his absolute death. The point is, sin is sin and we are all infected with the disease, we are all worthy of being excluded. Some, however, God will decide after the counsel of His will to rescue...Romans 9. Being rescued alters the rest of your life, but it is not contingent upon the man's life up to that point.
I should have put a disclaimer on Ann's article. The makes *many* statements I do NOT endorse. I realize I called her a "wise woman", so I brung it on myself.
Please give me a small penance (like, I could genuflect on my sore left knee" and then permit me back into the land of FR respectability, I beg you.
I promise I won't do it again!!
Please give me a small penance (like, I could genuflect on my sore left knee" and then permit me back into the land of FR respectability, I beg you.
I promise I won't do it again!!
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