Posted on 04/29/2014 2:55:24 PM PDT by NYer
Washington, DC (LiveActionNews) — Heaven is for Real is a new movie based on a book by pastor and father Todd Burpo. Burpo wrote the book after his 4-year-old son Colton had a near-death experience that lead to a heavenly encounter. After Colton recovered, he began telling his parents remarkable stories, like meeting the sister he never knew in heaven. Although Colton had no knowledge of his mom’s miscarriage, he told his parents he met a girl who told him she died in his mother’s tummy. The bestselling book and film have inspired countless people, giving them hope that heaven is a real place.
The subject of heaven has come up a number of times as I’ve worked in the pro-life movement. The two questions that I’ve heard asked by post-abortive moms and moms considering abortion are: 1) Do aborted babies go to heaven? and 2) If aborted babies will go right to heaven, why is it wrong to abort them?
Let’s start with the first question. Do aborted babies go to heaven? Pastor Mark Driscoll from Mars Hill church has a great article titled “What happens to babies when they die.” In the article, Mark addresses the pain his family has faced through his wife’s miscarriage. He says the eternal fate of unborn children and infants is a mystery that has always haunted the church. He shares quotes from respected Bible teachers who believe that unborn children and infants go straight to heaven after death because they’ve not made decisions about following God or performed good or evil acts. Driscoll shares a quote from former Bible teacher Charles Spurgeon: “I cannot conceive it possible of him [Jesus] as the loving and tender one, that when he shall sit to judge all nations, he should put the little ones on the left hand, and should banish them for ever from his presence.”
Pastor John Piper, an outspoken pro-life minister and adoptive father, wrote an article on infants’ eternal future. He believes that babies, like all humans, are brought into the world with a sinful nature because of the original sin of Adam and Eve. However, he believes that God has a way to cover their sin even before they are born. Piper wrote: “The way I see it is that God ordains, for his own wise purposes, that at the judgment day all the children who died in infancy will be covered by the blood of Jesus. And they will come to faith, either in heaven immediately or later in the resurrection. And God will not condemn them because he wants to manifest openly and publicly that he does not condemn those who did not have the mental capacities to put their faith in him.”
Question #2: If aborted babies will go right to heaven, why is it wrong to abort them? I had a woman ask me this in front of an abortion clinic once. Some women fear bringing their unborn babies into a world of chaos and confusion. They have emotional issues or financial problems, and they don’t think they can afford another child. Some people who believe in heaven justify their choice to abort because they think their baby will be in a “better place.”
Randy Alcorn is the founder and director of Eternal Perspectives Ministry. He is also the author of the book Why Pro-Life and Pro-Life Answers to Pro-Choice Questions. In a video interview, Alcorn directly answers the question of whether aborted children are better off because they’ll go straight to heaven. Alcorn has sadly been asked this question by two pastors, who asked him, “Why are you trying to do all this stuff to prevent abortions? ‘Children are better off dying’, they said. ‘They’re going to be in Heaven forever.’” Alcorn was deeply bothered by that question and shares his honest thoughts on the subject here.
Regardless of what you believe, the possibility of an afterlife is a thought worth pondering. As for me, I believe that children go into the arms of a loving and gracious heavenly Father, although I know that aborting them is not an acceptable way to get them there faster. If it isn’t right to take the life of a born child outside the womb, it shouldn’t be right to do the same for one inside the womb.
I am convinced that heaven is a glorious place. It’s comforting to know their is a home for every child who passes from this world to the next.
LifeNews Note: Christinia Martin writes for Live Action News. Martin has been a pro-life voice for eight years. Her work began after her mother confessed she paid a doctor to abort her, but walked out before he could. Knowing she was saved from death, she wanted to fight for others.
i have a few questions:
do leftists need this or any justification for having their babies aborted? or do they already think abortion is the best thing for their babies? answers: no and yes, resp.
can the will of God be thwarted by a woman, man or abortionist? answer: No.
will God render perfect justice for the murdered unborn? answer: yes.
do we on earth have to continue to fight this abomination of abortion? answer: yes, lest we be complicit.
thus. i’m content. this leftist premise matters not to me.
I think it’s a reasonable conjecture, but it has no basis in scripture, and seems to be at odds with the recorded participants in the first resurrection. As long as we all know it is a super-scriptural supposition...
Jesus promised the thief on the cross that day he would be WITH JESUS in Paradise. Some people don't see that as going to heaven, but we must remember that Jesus took everybody in Paradise with Him to heaven (Eph. 4:8). Now, did the Roman soldiers took the thief from the cross, down to the Brook Kidron, had him baptized and nailed him back to the cross? Of course not! Even if you don't agree that salvation comes before baptism, at least you have to agree that there are some "exceptions" when a person could go to heaven without baptism (and I am NOT suggesting that baptism is not essential to the Christian). Could God "make an exception" for aborted babies? Of course He can, and if necessary He will.
Personally I believe that baptism follows salvation, and that unborn babies and children under the age of accountability go straight to heaven. Like Paul said "Shall we continue in sin that grace may abound? Certainly not! (Ro 6:1,2). Mothers should not sin by killing their babies in order to make grace abound (get them into heaven).
http://www.gotquestions.org/aborted-babies-heaven.html
The fate of the ‘should be’ mother, without belief in Jesus, is more certain.
I don’t see that implication anywhere in there, but OK.
Would an aborted baby have a Baptism of Blood like other martyrs?
2 Samuel 12:23 (David speaking about the baby he had with Bathsheba.)
And Paul in Romans 7:9 (children before the age of accountability.)
(Amplified Bible:)
1 Corinthians 7:14 For the unbelieving husband is set apart (separated, withdrawn from heathen contamination, and affiliated with the Christian people) by union with his consecrated (set-apart) wife, and the unbelieving wife is set apart and separated through union with her consecrated husband. Otherwise your children would be unclean (unblessed heathen, outside the Christian covenant), but as it is they are prepared for God [pure and clean].
IMHO, only children who have at least one saved parent (better that both parents be saved) go to heaven if they die before the “age of accountability”.
“Not only that, but Rebekah’s children were conceived at the same time by our father Isaac. Yet, before the twins were born or had done anything good or bad—in order that God’s purpose in election might stand: not by works but by him who calls—she was told, “The older will serve the younger.” Just as it is written: “Jacob I loved, but Esau I hated.” —Romans 9
An interesting twist. I tend to think babies go to be with The Lord.
“The Bible does not specifically say whether or not an unborn child who dies goes to heaven. Without a clear passage, we can only speculate.”
Not only that, but as to whether humans go to heaven AT ALL, other than perhaps a brief stopover, is dubious.
David said he would be with his dead child after he died, but it never said at what location.
The story of Lazarus and the Rich Man seems to give a description that those under God’s grace went to a mostly pleasant place (which some call Abram’s Bosom or some call Paradise). This place seems to be far from the perfect heaven since you are in the midst of those who are suffering in their punishment.
Romans 7:9 says “For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died.”
I have no idea how you can get “age of accountability”. If there is “age of accountability” then is there “intelligence of accountability?” “Time Era of accountability?” “Geographic residence of accountability? “
That sounds beautiful, but it won’t work. A martyr is a person who suffers persecution, even death, for his beliefs. An unborn baby does not have beliefs, so I would not consider him “other martyr”. It’s like if I go out, get in my car, and die in a wreck, that wouldn’t make me a martyr, would it? I think there is a special dispensation of grace for babies and young children just like in Deuteronomy 1:39 the children of the Israelites are allowed to enter the Promised Land and they did not share in their parents’ punishment.
The wife and I saw it and enjoyed it. My wife is not religious and got choked up over several scenes.
Bookmarked.
There are two things we do not know about heaven and that is A to Z but I believe those babies are in Gods hands, he has a way.
I should have put a disclaimer on Ann's article. The makes *many* statements I do NOT endorse. I realize I called her a "wise woman", so I brung it on myself.
Please give me a small penance (like, I could genuflect on my sore left knee" and then permit me back into the land of FR respectability, I beg you.
I promise I won't do it again!!
Absolutely true...nor does it lower the killer's likelihood. Notice Paul, who relished and participated in the murder of innocent believers. Notice David, who stealthily sent Uriah to his absolute death. The point is, sin is sin and we are all infected with the disease, we are all worthy of being excluded. Some, however, God will decide after the counsel of His will to rescue...Romans 9. Being rescued alters the rest of your life, but it is not contingent upon the man's life up to that point.
I should have put a disclaimer on Ann's article. The makes *many* statements I do NOT endorse. I realize I called her a "wise woman", so I brung it on myself.
Please give me a small penance (like, I could genuflect on my sore left knee" and then permit me back into the land of FR respectability, I beg you.
I promise I won't do it again!!
Please give me a small penance (like, I could genuflect on my sore left knee" and then permit me back into the land of FR respectability, I beg you.
I promise I won't do it again!!
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