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To: boatbums

God feeds the birds but he does not take it to the nests for them.

In the same sense God inspired the Bible but he did not do
the writing and translating, there are mistakes or there would be nothing to disagree about.

Even the apostles obviously made mistakes, Paul accused Peter of leaving the Gentiles and eating with the Jews, if it was true then both of them made mistakes, Peter for doing it and Paul for telling the world about it rather than going to Peter in private as Jesus said to do.

Also in Tim 2:8 Paul said to pray lifting up holy hands.

What did Jesus say?
Mat 6
5
And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.

6
But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly.


33 posted on 05/14/2014 11:45:29 PM PDT by ravenwolf
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To: ravenwolf
If you are implying that the Bible is untrustworthy, I will have to disagree with you. I'll address your points, if it will help you to better know the value and authority of Holy Scripture.

God feeds the birds but he does not take it to the nests for them. In the same sense God inspired the Bible but he did not do the writing and translating, there are mistakes or there would be nothing to disagree about.

God gave the bird an INNATE ability (instinct) to know to build nests in the first place and which foods are best for them and then provides the food dependent on the regions where they live. In the same way, God gives to those who are believers the Holy Spirit and this is how we can understand the things of God - without which it would be foolishness to us (I Cor. 2:14). We hear and recognize the voice of our Shepherd, as well. That we have the texts in their original languages (thousands of manuscript copies going back to the early centuries), and language experts who are able to translate into English - for example - all the truths God has desired we know, there is no real reason to doubt what we have in the Bible today is lacking what God gave to us.

Even the apostles obviously made mistakes, Paul accused Peter of leaving the Gentiles and eating with the Jews, if it was true then both of them made mistakes, Peter for doing it and Paul for telling the world about it rather than going to Peter in private as Jesus said to do.

All men are fallible and do make mistakes as well as sin. The reason Paul rebuked Peter "to his face" was because he was publicly doing something that would have a huge effect on all Christians had he not been openly corrected. Paul did what had to be done and that incident established doctrine. He wasn't "picking on" poor Peter by trying to embarrass him in front of others. No doubt, had Paul made a similar error, Peter would have been urged to act the same. These men were APOSTLES. What they did and said had influence over all Christians. If you remember in Paul's letter to the Corinthians, he advised them to openly rebuke a member who committed gross sin (sex with his father's wife) and who had not been corrected or called to repentance. This doesn't contradict Jesus in any way because it was not just a simple problem between two people - it affected the entire church.

Also in Tim 2:8 Paul said to pray lifting up holy hands. What did Jesus say? Mat 6 5 And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward. 6 But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly.

Can you not lift up holy hands in your prayer closet? I've done it while praying all alone in my car. It is not something one does in order to appear pious or holy to others and is why we can do so even in worship with others. It is the attitude that counts. Jesus rebuked the religious leaders who made a show of praying in the temple square.

If you continue to have doubts about the reliability of Scripture, here is a good site to investigate all those "seeming" contradictions in the Bible Countering Bible Contradictions.

God bless you as you live for Christ and seek to know His word.

42 posted on 05/15/2014 3:21:03 PM PDT by boatbums (quod semper, quod ubique, quod ab omnibus)
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