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To: metmom
If the magisterium were infallible, being guided by the Holy Spirit, then every single last decision it makes would ALWAYS be unanimous.

Where is that in the Bible?

Where is this unity in Protestantism?

Why is that logically necessary?

Remember that the Holy Spirit is contending with human frailty. It seems to me that only the final decision of a Church Council or pope would have to be infallible.

And when you read about the Council of Jerusalem, the decision-making process was very turbulent. The Bible doesn't say so explicitly, but it's not unreasonable to believe that the members of the Council were not in complete agreement.

Additionally, Church Teaching has many levels, including the pastoral, which is practical, and contingent upon historical circumstances.

"If he will not listen to the church, treat him as a pagan or tax collector." --Jesus

266 posted on 05/24/2014 7:01:10 AM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas
Where is that in the Bible?

Red Herring $3.49 a pound

269 posted on 05/24/2014 7:03:53 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas
Remember that the Holy Spirit is contending with human frailty. It seems to me that only the final decision of a Church Council or pope would have to be infallible.

Let me see....

I get it.

If it's the magisterium, then it's not an issue if they have disagreements, because it's only a matter of human frailty.

But if there's disagreements in Protestantism, it's an indication of the inherent flaw of protestanism with their *30,000* different interpretations of Scripture.

So when it's Catholic, it's good or of no consequence and if it's Protestant, it's bad or damning.

274 posted on 05/24/2014 8:56:15 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith....)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas
The Bible doesn't say so explicitly, but it's not unreasonable to believe that the members of the Council were not in complete agreement.

And yet Catholics reject sola Scriptura for exactly what reason again?

275 posted on 05/24/2014 8:58:21 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith....)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas
"Where is this unity in Protestantism?"

CHRIST!

281 posted on 05/24/2014 9:59:38 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion ( "I didn't leave the Central Oligarchy Party. It left me." - Ronaldus Magnimus, 2014)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas
""If he will not listen to the church, treat him as a pagan or tax collector." --Jesus "
Wrested out of context time and time again in your posts.

Only used in Scripture when two believers bring a conflict before the Church for arbitration and then one refuses to obey the decision.

Any other usage is false.

283 posted on 05/24/2014 10:04:51 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion ( "I didn't leave the Central Oligarchy Party. It left me." - Ronaldus Magnimus, 2014)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas
Where is this unity in Protestantism?

Christ

Where and what is the unity in Catholicism?

299 posted on 05/24/2014 1:41:59 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith....)
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