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To: boatbums

Why don't Catholics ever look to their church's OWN condition during the Reformation?

To what end? That history is ancient. So some corrupt people were selling indulgences. There were bad popes, blah blah blah. Big deal. What's the difference between a protestant today whining about the selling of indulgences in the 16th century and Muslims today bemoaning the Crusades? Nothing.

Am I supposed to share in some guilt over all of it? I think not. Besides I thought we rejected the notion of collective guilt anyway as a device used by the left.

Besides, it's not as if Catholic thought is the order of the modern age. It's definitely protestant. So while we discard the excesses and failures of those within The Church to its proper place in the ashbin of history we unfortunately can't do that with protestantism since its thinking permeates to this day.

As for sacredotalism, well you'll have to take that up with God since he instituted it in His Church, "This is My body." Whether protestants agree/disagree is irrelevant. Truth be told it's not for them to say. For the Catholic Church is sole authority for interpreting Sacred Scripture. It is not for them. Unfortunately it is the post-modern protestant mind which says "it is my right..." to engage in sodomy, to abort my unborn children, to interpret scripture as I see fit.

Superstition

And now that the protestant has been enlightened they are the keepers of reason and won't fall for such "hocus pocus" that is The Eucharist. It makes me wonder how this protestant mindset differs from the modern day atheist and all of their talk of, "magic friends in the sky" and "flying spaghetti monsters." It doesn't. Not really. It's all born out of derision. The refuge of those who see the Truth but will not acknowledge it.

And yet, the protestants can't but help practice their own hocus pocus by thinking they are saved for all time by the use of incantation involving the name of Christ. Yeah, okay. We'll see at the last judgment how that worked out for them. "Not all who say Lord Lord will be saved."

paganism

You mean the kind of paganism engaged in by protestants who adopt secular marketing campaigns in an attempt to spread their particular brand of error? Got milk? Got Jesus? In effect baptizing these things for their own ends. Maybe they should stop making t-shirts and playing rock band in their "houses of worship" and contemplate the mysteries of the Faith. They might be better off. And wearing a WWJD bracelet doesn't count.

...gospel was perverted

You only have the Gospels because of the Catholic Church. To hear protestants tell it, for 1,500 years there was nothing but The Great Lie before good 'ol Marty came along to straighten everything out. All Hail Luther! Talk about giving someone a break. The only perversion there was came out of his mind and his sycophants that followed abusing the Scriptures for their own devious and perverse ends. Which continues to this day. Protestants have no trouble finding scriptural warrant for sodomy, abortion, contraception, etc. And why not at the end of the day it's just them. Don't like what scripture says? They put the book back on the shelf and go and do it anyway. The silver lining of being your own magisterium.

The fighting that continues between Catholics and Protestants (like on these threads) is NOT because Catholics are trying to "save the world" from destroying itself, but because of an attitude of elitism and superiority

What is this? The grown-up version of, "No you can't tell me what to do?" That's what it sure sounds like. Protestants know who has the authority. But reject and insert their own.

And when western civilization reaches its end as the result of the natural progression of protestant thinking whose going to be there to pick up the pieces? Some itinerant preacher our of central casting for Mad Max? No. It will be the Catholic Church. Having to start again after the failed protestant experiment.

59 posted on 05/25/2014 12:48:39 AM PDT by JPX2011
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To: JPX2011

Rather, it is time for ALL Christians, because of our COMMON baptism, come together to witness to the good news of the Gospel of Jesus.


64 posted on 05/25/2014 4:29:35 AM PDT by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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