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To: imardmd1
...I am sure I have probably offended you, but please don't lose any sleep over it --

I am not offended. I am secure in my relationship with God, through the infilling of His Holy spirit, and His leadership of my life.

I would not drink alcohol when I am around you because it would offend you, and that is what Scripture tells me. BUT, I have no problems with hanging out with publicans and sinners like my Brother did in His days on Earth. I have no doubts He may have had a glass or two (or maybe even three or four!) of FERMENTED wine (with or without sugar added).

As for hermeneutics, I had the privilege of a few years at a Bible College, where I learned some Greek and was taught how to exegete for that and also had some teachings from a Jewish Rabbi, from whom I learned some Hebrew.

Some people just like to find an agreeable source that will represent their views. I prefer to stick with what the Bible says (through the leadings of His Holy Spirit!.

YMMV!


25 posted on 05/29/2014 8:38:10 PM PDT by WVKayaker ("Let's keep the grassroots momentum going ..." -Sarah Palin 4/19/14)
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To: WVKayaker

Yeah, I think you and I have been through this before. We’ll see. I recall Lima. I lived in Honeoye Falls.


27 posted on 05/29/2014 9:45:51 PM PDT by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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To: WVKayaker
I am not offended. I am secure in my relationship with God, through the infilling of His Holy spirit, and His leadership of my life.

Well, let me say it appears from your responses that if the conclusions drawn by Henry Morris in this article from Ephesians 3:18 were truly the case, your position might become just a little insecure? That is, the idea that habitual consumption of intoxicants and control by the Holy Spirit can coexist might have to be dumped? Hmmm. For sure, your hermeneutics would have to come to a considerably different conclusion than the more precise translation offered earlier in this thread, wouldn't it?

How would you account for that, especially where the gender of "which" (masculine) is undeniably referring to "wine" , rather than to the action of "becoming drunk", where "which" if referring to the action father than to "wine" would necessarily have to be neuter and could not be masculine?

Is it possible that one in the state of well-advanced inebriation could be also filled (controlled) by the Holy Spirit such that the chemical influence was completely overridden by the Spirit, such that at any level, the individual would be seen as completely sober in speech, thinking, action, and worship (proskuneo)?

Would speaking in tongues (glossolallia) while under the influence be recommended? These might be questions of faith and practice for us to consider, especially for the Romanist or charismatist.

Just wonderin' . . .

38 posted on 05/31/2014 1:50:53 AM PDT by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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