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Pope Francis and Patriarch Bartholomew pray together at the Church of the Holy Sepulchre
Catholic Herald ^ | May 25, 2014

Posted on 05/25/2014 1:04:14 PM PDT by NYer

Pope Francis stands with Ecumenical Patriarch Bartholomew I as they meet outside the Church of the Holy Sepulchre (PA)

Pope Francis stands with Ecumenical Patriarch Bartholomew I as they meet outside the Church of the Holy Sepulchre (PA)

Half a century after a historic encounter between their predecessors, Pope Francis and Ecumenical Patriarch Bartholomew met in the same place to seek inspiration for Christian unity at the site of Christ’s death and resurrection.

“We need to believe that, just as the stone before the tomb was cast aside, so, too, every obstacle to our full communion will also be removed,” the Pope said during a prayer service at the Church of the Holy Sepulchre today.

“Every time we put behind us our longstanding prejudices and find the courage to build new fraternal relationships, we confess that Christ is truly risen,” the Pope said, his voice hoarse and expression fatigued after two full days of public appearances in the Holy Land.

The Pope also spoke of an “ecumenism of suffering, an ecumenism of blood,” which brings Christians closer through the common experience of persecution. When others kill Christians, he noted, they do not ask if they are Catholic or Orthodox.

Patriarch Bartholomew said Jesus’s tomb sends the message that “history cannot be programmed; that the ultimate word in history does not belong to man, but to God. In vain did the guards of secular power watch over this tomb. In vain did they place a very large stone against the door of the tomb, so that none could roll it away.”

The Patriarch said the tomb also encourages Christians to “love the other, the different other, the followers of other faiths and other confessions.”

Their prayer service marked the 50th anniversary of an encounter in Jerusalem between Pope Paul VI and Ecumenical Patriarch Athenagoras of Constantinople. The earlier meeting, which led both Churches to lift the mutual excommunications that started the East-West schism in 1054, opened the modern period of ecumenical dialogue.

Pope Francis and Patriarch Bartholomew reached the square in front of the church a few minutes after 8pm. They arrived from opposite sides and met in the centre, where they embraced before entering the church.

Inside, they participated in common prayer with representatives of the Greek Orthodox, Armenian and Catholic Churches, which share custody of the building. The event was extraordinary because members of the three communities usually observe a strict separation when praying inside the church. Representatives of other churches present in the Holy Land — including Coptic, Syriac, Ethiopian, Anglican and Lutheran archbishops — also participated in the ecumenical celebration.

At the beginning of the service, which featured songs and readings in Greek and Latin, the Pope and the Patriarch knelt and prayed together before the stone of unction, a red limestone slab traditionally believed to be the surface on which Jesus’s dead body was anointed for burial after the crucifixion.

Both Patriarch Bartholomew and Pope Francis gave short addresses, the former speaking in English and the latter in Italian.

Later, the Pope and Patriarch entered the aedicule, a small wood building containing Jesus’s tomb. They knelt before it and kissed it. After exiting they climbed a stairway to Mount Calvary to light candles at the site of the crucifixion.

Earlier in the evening, the Pope and Patriarch met privately at the apostolic delegation, the Vatican’s representative office in Jerusalem, where the Pope was to spend the second and final night of his visit to the Holy Land.

The two leaders spent more than an hour together, more than twice as long as scheduled. They emerged with a signed common declaration calling for “communion in legitimate diversity” between their Churches.

“We look forward in eager anticipation to the day in which we will finally partake together in the eucharistic banquet,” the Pope and Patriarch wrote, calling for continuing “fraternal encounter and true dialogue” to “lead us into all truth.”

Their declaration also called for common efforts in the “service of humanity, especially in defending the dignity of the human person at every stage of life and the sanctity of family based on marriage, in promoting peace and the common good” by struggling against “hunger, poverty, illiteracy (and) the inequitable distribution of resources.”

The leaders also stressed the need to protect the natural environment and defend religious liberty, especially for embattled Christian minorities in the Middle East.

The Vatican had emphasised that the Pope’s meeting with Patriarch Bartholomew was the main reason for his densely packed, three-day visit to the Holy Land. The two leaders were scheduled to meet a total of four times during the visit, whose official logo was an icon of the apostles Peter and Andrew, patron saints of the churches of Rome and Constantinople, joined in a fraternal embrace.

For the full text of Pope Francis and Patriarch Bartholomew go here.



TOPICS: Catholic; Current Events; Ecumenism; Orthodox Christian
KEYWORDS: patriarch

1 posted on 05/25/2014 1:04:14 PM PDT by NYer
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To: Tax-chick; GregB; Berlin_Freeper; SumProVita; narses; bboop; SevenofNine; Ronaldus Magnus; tiki; ...
Personally, I was very moved by the Patriarch's address, delivered in English.

Don’t be afraid, the first disciples were told as they gazed into the empty tomb on the first Easter Sunday. But as Patriarch Bartholomew noted in this homily before the shared prayer and joint blessing, fear is still an all too prevalent emotion in our modern age: fear of those who are different from ourselves, fear of followers of another faith and fear feeding religious fanaticism that threatens peace in many regions of the globe.
50 Years On

Ping!

2 posted on 05/25/2014 1:06:48 PM PDT by NYer ("You are a puff of smoke that appears briefly and then disappears." James 4:14)
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To: NYer

Good post...WOW!

Two posts and no Pope Bashers yet????UNBELIEVABLE.


3 posted on 05/25/2014 2:01:22 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie

That is a MIRACLE indeed!


4 posted on 05/25/2014 3:05:55 PM PDT by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: Biggirl

The pope can enjoy the Church of the Holy Supulchre just like any other tourist. It’s beautiful inside and loaded with icons.


5 posted on 05/25/2014 3:19:19 PM PDT by Old Yeller (Anything is possible, if you don't know what you're talking about.)
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To: Biggirl

LOL!!!yup.


6 posted on 05/25/2014 3:20:59 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie
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To: Old Yeller

The Church of the Holy Supulchre is truly a very beautiful church inside. I did see pictures online and it looks like over the years there has been repairs that have been done inside. The order of Francisians who take care of the Catholic shrines in the Holy Land have a website about this shrine and its history.


7 posted on 05/25/2014 4:12:39 PM PDT by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie
Two posts and no Pope Bashers yet????UNBELIEVABLE.

Makes me nervous. Where are they?

8 posted on 05/25/2014 4:33:08 PM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: NYer
There is no reason today why all the Catholic churches, the Vatican, Eastern and Orthodox couldn't be ONE.

Language WAS one of the separating factors but now all Masses may be said in the vernacular.
Wouldn't it be nice...

I was in Belgrade on a tour and got sick so I stayed a few extra days there and the tour went on. I went to Mass and it was in SERBIAN. The ONLY words I understood of the Mass were Jesu Christos, of something that I took to be Jesus Christ.

It didn't matter as I KNEW what was happening in the Mass, the exact same thing that happens in the daily Mass I attend here at home in the USA.

9 posted on 05/25/2014 4:38:27 PM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: Biggirl
The Church of the Holy Supulchre is truly a very beautiful church inside. I did see pictures online and it looks like over the years there has been repairs that have been done inside. The order of Francisians who take care of the Catholic shrines in the Holy Land have a website about this shrine and its history.

An old friend of mine (Presbyterian) and I went on a Steve Ray FOOTPRINTS OF GOD Pilgrimage to the Holy Land in 2011. It was absolutely wonderful. Our tour guide near Jerusalem was a Palestinian Arab Catholic.
EVERY Catholic, every Christian ought to save his pennies and go to the Holy Land. I can't even WRITE about the visit into the Holy Sepulcre. I did lay down my already blessed rosary on Jesus' tomb. I still have it and use it every day.

Mount Calvary isn't a hill anymore because SO MANY PILGRIMS went there early on that the ROMANS took down the hill in the 4th century!

It's now flat and the "top of Mt. Calvary," the site of the Crucifixion, is now right next to Jesus' tomb. It would not have been very far, only right next to the hill but now it's VERY close.

Steve Ray was an evangelical Baptist minister before he and his wife converted. He knew his Bible verses backwards and forwards and made the tour extra special.

10 posted on 05/25/2014 4:51:01 PM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: cloudmountain

Ha. don’t worry, they are all at church today, talking with each other about how awful the Pope is.


11 posted on 05/25/2014 5:49:11 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie
The pope/Catholic bashers don't know what to do when you throw the Orthodox Church into the mix. That's foreign territory. Some years ago, on the "never-ending" religion thread, one of the bigots admitted he had never even heard of the Orthodox Church.
12 posted on 05/25/2014 5:52:09 PM PDT by workerbee (The President of the United States is DOMESTIC ENEMY #1!)
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To: workerbee

Ha...good one.


13 posted on 05/25/2014 5:54:36 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie
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To: cloudmountain

Thank-you for your very wonderful story and God Bless.


14 posted on 05/25/2014 6:31:26 PM PDT by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie
Ha. don’t worry, they are all at church today, talking with each other about how awful the Pope is.

I go to daily Mass. The Pope doesn't get bashed. There isn't much reason to talk about him, let alone bash him.

Besides, he's just one of many.

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AMAZING, isn't it? From Peter to Francis, 2000 years of the Vicar of Christ. I guess Jesus knew what he was doing choosing PETER to start it off.

People being people it's not surprising about all the conflict... that ole free will again AND the seven deadly ones. Pride, by the way, leads off the seven deadly ones, not surprising.

15 posted on 05/25/2014 7:38:57 PM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: cloudmountain

Thanks for posting that list. Kind of makes me sad, though, for the generations of people who were led by Popes who were not Saints. Amazing to think I have lived during the papacy of two Saints.


16 posted on 05/26/2014 9:28:17 AM PDT by married21 ( As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.)
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To: married21
Thanks for posting that list. Kind of makes me sad, though, for the generations of people who were led by Popes who were not Saints. Amazing to think I have lived during the papacy of two Saints.

God made us and He gave us free will. We would STILL be in deep doo-doo even without Satan.

Being a "saint" makes for a GREAT role model, but it does not, in itself, make for a good or strong Pope. The Vicar of Christ has to come out loud, strong and clear about the MORAL ABSOLUTES that God gave to us.

The ten commandments aren't so simple.
Example;
The fifth commandment says: Thou shalt not kill.
I am not a murderess, so I am safe. Right?
Well, it ALSO means no abortions, doctor assisted deaths and such, TRUE.

It also means not killing ourselves with alcoholism, drugs, venereal diseases from promiscuity, over eating (oops, there's my lacuna) and other such self-destructive life choices.
It also means not providing or encouraging drugs for others OR ignoring others' behaviors that kill them.

Last example: Honor thy father and thy mother.
We do NOT have to "honor" a mother who beats us senseless every day. Carol Chessman, mass rapist from a long time ago in California, had a mother who chained him to the stove every morning and beat him unmercefully and relentlessly.

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(Russian: Андрей Романович Чикатило, Ukrainian: Андрій Романович Чикатило; 16 October 1936 – 14 February 1994) was a Soviet serial killer, nicknamed the Butcher of Rostov, the Red Ripper, and the Rostov Ripper, who committed the sexual assault, murder and mutilation of a minimum of 52 women and children between 1978 and 1990 in the Russian SFSR, the Ukrainian SSR and the Uzbek SSR. Chikatilo confessed to a total of 56 murders and was tried for 53 of these killings in April 1992. He was convicted and sentenced to death for 52 of these murders in October 1992 and subsequently executed in February 1994.
Chikatila had been a bed wetter when he was a boy and for this his mother BEAT THE LIVING DAYLIGHTS out of him every single day of this life. His father was present and did nothing, not even leave his wife.

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We don't have to honor a father who rapes/molests his children or step children.

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With parenting like above, the best thing for a child to do is RUN and never look back.

17 posted on 05/26/2014 10:42:23 AM PDT by cloudmountain
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