Free Republic
Browse · Search
Religion
Topics · Post Article

To: BlueDragon
Such classic projection!

Is it now? Catholics don't look to protestants for affirmation of what they believe. It is the exact opposite. Only by comparing and contrasting one's theological beliefs in the mirror of Catholicism can a protestant determine the veracity their beliefs

With a few exceptions, most "protestants" and other nondenominational, whoever they are, don't give a moment's thought to [Roman] Catholicism

It doesn't have to be a conscious thought. It has become so ingrained it has become a subconscious reflex. Faith alone. Christ alone, etc. Whatever form such affirmations take there is always the embedded rejection of the Catholic Church even if the person sitting in the congregration doesn't realize it.

Try bringing personal testimony, instead of promotion or Romanism and then I may listen, if the sound can make it through the callouses many of your co-religionists have taken so much effort to force upon me and any of this forum who dares contend for faith in Christ and even His own Spirit that can be freely enough for from the narrow confines of the RCC.

And yet any personal testimony I might bring to the RF has been preemptively dismissed by you as being restricted within the narrow confines of Roman promotion. So what's the point? The Roman Catholic Church is my personal testimony. Unfortunately, the protestant predilection for describing things in post-enlightenment terms and a pre-occupation with "man-made things" prevents them from understanding that the Catholic Church is not just a visible institution but an organism residing within the Body of Christ.

32 posted on 05/31/2014 1:43:49 AM PDT by JPX2011
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 29 | View Replies ]


To: JPX2011

More projection.

33 posted on 05/31/2014 1:57:57 AM PDT by BlueDragon (...to stay on the safe side...I'm never stopping in Amarillo again)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 32 | View Replies ]

To: JPX2011; BlueDragon; Alex Murphy; bkaycee; blue-duncan; boatbums; caww; count-your-change; ...
Catholics don't look to protestants for affirmation of what they believe. It is the exact opposite. Only by comparing and contrasting one's theological beliefs in the mirror of Catholicism can a protestant determine the veracity their beliefs

Wrong again.

Projection again.

We compare our beliefs to SCRIPTURE, which is the ONLY standard by which anything is to be compared.

Comparing Catholic teachings to Scripture shows just off base they are. Why would anyone want to compare what they believe to that?

It doesn't have to be a conscious thought. It has become so ingrained it has become a subconscious reflex. Faith alone. Christ alone, etc. Whatever form such affirmations take there is always the embedded rejection of the Catholic Church even if the person sitting in the congregration doesn't realize it.

In your dreams. Catholics wish that were the case. It makes them feel all warm and fuzzy to think that everyone is secretly jealous over them and guilt ridden for leaving the alleged *One True Church*.

Guess again. We sleep at night. The nice, deep, peaceful sleep of the redeemed.

Faith alone and Christ alone because it's in Scripture, not because it's in opposition to Catholicism.

However, thanks for the tacit admission that Catholicism teaches that salvation is not through faith alone and not through Christ alone; that what Jesus did on the cross is not good enough to save anyone.

38 posted on 05/31/2014 5:28:06 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith....)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 32 | View Replies ]

To: JPX2011
... the Catholic Church is not just a visible institution but an organism residing within the Body of Christ.

Kinda like a cancer?

71 posted on 05/31/2014 7:41:51 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 32 | View Replies ]

To: JPX2011; BlueDragon

“Faith alone. Christ alone, etc. Whatever form such affirmations take there is always the embedded rejection of the Catholic Church even if the person sitting in the congregration doesn’t realize it.”

Faith alone as the means of accessing God’s grace is scriptural. Christ alone is also pretty darn scriptural. We teach it because it is what the Bible says, not because we think of it as a rejection of Catholic belief. And if it IS a rejection of Catholic belief...then Catholics need to start reading the Bible more!


82 posted on 05/31/2014 8:10:23 AM PDT by Mr Rogers (I sooooo miss America!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 32 | View Replies ]

To: JPX2011
....the Catholic Church is not just a visible institution but an organism residing within the Body of Christ.

You've been drinking the VII Kool-Aid for too long. Prior to VII the teaching was that the Catholic Church *IS* the Body of Christ, not just residing in it.

88 posted on 05/31/2014 8:32:06 AM PDT by piusv
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 32 | View Replies ]

To: JPX2011; metmom; redleghunter; boatbums; caww; presently no screen name; CynicalBear; mitch5501; ...
Is it now? Catholics don't look to protestants for affirmation of what they believe. It is the exact opposite. Only by comparing and contrasting one's theological beliefs in the mirror of Catholicism can a protestant determine the veracity their beliefs

My first reaction was "he really didn't say that," as if the reason we hold or reject truth claims was based upon what Rome or the EOs say ("Catholicism" is too broad), rather than Scriptural substantiation. But for clarification, let me ask you also, what is the basis for your assurance of truth?

For it seems that the RC argument is that an assuredly (if conditionally) infallible magisterium is essential for valid assurance of Truth and to fulfill promises of Divine presence, providence of Truth, and preservation of faith. (Jn. 14:16; 16:13; Mt. 16:18)

And that being the historical instruments and stewards of Divine revelation (oral and written) means that Rome is that assuredly infallible magisterium. Thus those who dissent from the latter are in rebellion to God.

Does this fairly represent what you hold to or in what way does it differ??

100 posted on 05/31/2014 11:30:51 AM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 32 | View Replies ]

Free Republic
Browse · Search
Religion
Topics · Post Article


FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson