Posted on 06/03/2014 8:24:27 AM PDT by Dr. Thorne
ST. LOUIS (AP) - A Catholic priest from St. Louis is facing a court hearing on charges that he had sexual contact with a 14-year-old boy.
The Rev. Joseph Jiang faces two counts of statutory sodomy. Jiang worked at the Cathedral Basilica and is accused of sexually abusing a student at St. Louis Cathedral School. His lawyer has said Jiang denies the allegations.
(Excerpt) Read more at stltoday.com ...
Letting admitted homosexuals into the priesthood caused this issue.
Healthy heterosexual males do not become homosexual pedophiles because of celibacy.
Just remove the celibacy part and almost all of these problems disappear.
It would be a mistake to conclude that celibacy causes homosexuality or pedophilia.
It would not be a mistake to conclude that the policy of celibacy helped create an environment within the Church very attractive to homosexuasl and pedophiles.
Pope Francis is correct to point out that the policy is more of a discipline, not a dogma etched into stone and subject to change.
Jenkins said there has been no formal study comparing denominations for rates of child abuse. However, insurers have been assessing the risks since they began offering riders on liability policies in the 1980s. Two of the largest insurers report no higher risks in covering Catholic churches than Protestant denominations (Jenkins, Pedophiles and Priests).
The idea that there's some nutty "doctrine" among priests that results in sexual abuse, has been debunked time and time again.
It may, however, explain some people's motivation in tirelessly trumpeting every allegation, proven or unproven, made about Catholic clergy, while maintaining a tight-lipped silence about every other category of clergy offender.
**Just remove the celibacy part and almost all of these problems disappear.**
False
Why is the abuse among teachers higher than any among any kind of minister/priest?
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IPeter 4:17 For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God: and if it first begin with us, what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God?
Remember Aaron's two sons, God killed them for playing with strange fire.
The idea that the Catholic Church has paid out mass fortunes for the acts of their employees, calls into question the 'charity' front used in the 'social justice' agenda. Things are not adding up.
I am a Christian and the WORD, is a twoedged sword it cuts both ways from the extreme left all the way around to the extreme right. Abuse is not a math calculation, it is playing 'god' with God's own children. Not something that will escape His attention.
Nice try. More than half of your links are so old they expired.
I take that as evidence that there's no longer an abuse problem in Protestant denominations!
Never did I say that God's judgment uses percentages.
Dr. Thorne asserted that Catholic clergy are prone to be sexually abusive because of false docrtine. I pointed out that Catholic clergy are not particularly prone to be abusive: they offend at rates similar to other (Christian) clergy, and also similar to all married men taken as a statistical class. This furnishes evidence that Catholic "doctrines" are not at the root of these horrible sins of abuse.
Such disgusting sins are found across all demographic categories. This does not minimize the evil of these sins: far from it.
It does show that serious repentance is needed across the board, for God's judgment is strict and certain.
Well said.
I am amazed that people feel that being celibate causes heterosexual males to become homosexual pedophiles.
Actually the figure is closer to 4%.
“The 2004 John Jay Report was based on a study of 10,667 allegations against 4,392 priests accused of engaging in sexual abuse of a minor between 1950 and 2002.”
“around 81% of these victims were male”
“The 4,392 priests who were accused amount to approximately 4% of the 109,694 priests in active ministry during that time.”
Source: Wikipedia.com Subject: pedophile priests.
I would agree with you that these days children in our public schools have a much greater chance of being molested by teacher as the Church has already driven out most of the predator priests and instituted tight safeguards to screen potential candidates to the seminaries. According to our pastor, only one in ten candidates for the seminary actually get through the screening process.
That all said, no amount of spin can sugar coat the sheer enormity of the size and scope of the pedophile priest scandal which has succeeded in bringing many of our dioceses to or on the brink of bankruptcy.
Gee, I wonder why. People didn’t want the truth exposed about them? Go figure.
In any case, this particular sin is gaining ground and children are more and more sexualized in this society--- and you can bet the ramifications will go on and on and on. May God protect His people from those who hate Him, and may these wretches come to repentance.
All demographic categories do not dress up in 'heavenly' pious robes and call themselves 'holy father'. This sin is done in the name of God. That elevates the sin into a whole different realm. God held and continues to hold, those that came/come in His name to a higher standard. By Catholic doctrine protestants are NOT really Christian so they cannot be held to the same standard. So it is deceptive to conjure up a percentage calculation that 'holy fathers' are no different than the common sinner.
“pedophile priest scandal “
To be clear, and based on your stats, it is more correctly and accurately stated as “HOMOSEXUAL pedophile priest scandal”
Precisely, I agree, should have added that to be more accurate.
The Church’s policy of mandatory clerical celibacy created a perfect environment for this scandal to occur: An all male environment. A good ole boy network to cover up incidents and shuffle priests around from one place to the next. An atmosphere of secrecy. No shortage of young boys to prey upon among altar servers, Catholic school children, and among the parishioners. No shortage of youth to prey upon (instead of pray over).
Also keep in mind, back in the day, long before homosexuality was accepted and glamorized and glorified as it is today, the Church was seen by many as a natural refuge for men who did not want to get married. Also, back in those days, few would dare question the veracity and integrity of a Catholic priest so it was a perfect cover for many.
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