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To: yongin

If you go with every word of the Bible as infallible, then I guess your child is out of luck for support and love.

I don’t stone people who don’t observe the sabbath. I believe babies with heartbeats who die in utero are human and have souls and go to heaven. And I believe gay people are equal to straight people. I believe slavery is always wrong. And still the Bible is a great help to me personally. I just don’t follow every word.

If my child is gay he gets total love and support from me same as if he were straight.

Not Christian but I do note that Jesus didn’t discriminate but helped and loved all.


25 posted on 06/07/2014 2:49:32 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: Yaelle
Not Christian but I do note that Jesus didn’t discriminate but helped and loved all.

And He stands ready to help gays just as He does all sinners. His arms are open and His heart is filled with love and wisdom.

I am a sinner...He has saved my bacon more times that I care to count.;-)

But I agree. Our job is not to stone gays but to offer them help and support and love.

I have never know a gay guy or a lesbian who wasn't a screaming sex addict. That disease alone makes one absolutely miserable.

To pretend sexual addition is not a disease is to remove the hope of ever being cured. And frankly sexual addiction isn't that hard to cure as some are (like AIDS or cancer).

37 posted on 06/07/2014 3:01:11 PM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: Yaelle
Forgive the typos.

Sexual addition ain't the same as sexual addiction.

Or, on the other hand...mebbe it is.;-)

39 posted on 06/07/2014 3:04:38 PM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: Yaelle

Matthew 18:15-17 (NIV)
Dealing With Sin in the Church

15 “If your brother or sister sins, go and point out their fault, just between the two of you. If they listen to you, you have won them over. 16 But if they will not listen, take one or two others along, so that ‘every matter may be established by the testimony of two or three witnesses.’ 17 If they still refuse to listen, tell it to the church; and if they refuse to listen even to the church, treat them as you would a pagan or a tax collector.


40 posted on 06/07/2014 3:06:46 PM PDT by donna (Pray for revival.)
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To: Yaelle
Not Christian but I do note that Jesus didn’t discriminate but helped and loved all.

But Jesus did not accept, condone or "support" those who sinned to continue sinning. He told them directly not to sin any more. And he drove a particular band of sinners out of the Temple with a bullwhip.

Jesus was not Messiah of the "Church of Nice People." That image of progressive liberal politically correct "tolerance" is a recent invention by mortals who want to get over on God during this lifetime. Pity them in the next.

61 posted on 06/07/2014 3:51:57 PM PDT by Albion Wilde ("The commenters are plenty but the thinkers are few." -- Walid Shoebat)
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To: Yaelle
Perhaps you are forgetting that when the money changers defiled the temple, Jesus sat down and took the time to braid a whip / scourge and beat the defilers of the temple and destroyed their tables. Jesus also spoke out against the Pharisees and Sadducee's calling them vipers and thieves. Jesus did not help all.

And in the incident of the women who was about to be stoned, Jesus commanded her at the end of their encounter to go and sin no more. Repentance is the price that is paid to unlock mercy and grace.

63 posted on 06/07/2014 3:54:09 PM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: Yaelle
I don’t stone people who don’t observe the sabbath.

Oh, for God's sake...

Not Christian but I do note that Jesus didn’t discriminate but helped and loved all.

Yeah, I can tell you don't have the faintest clue of what you're talking about. It's clear as day.

65 posted on 06/07/2014 3:59:07 PM PDT by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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To: Yaelle
If you go with every word of the Bible as infallible, then I guess your child is out of luck for support and love.

A close relative of mine enjoys heterosexual sex - a lot, and not just with the spouse and not just with people who are unmarried. This relative (I'm being vague for privacy reasons since a small number of my relatives know I post here as pollster1) can come to me for support in other areas and for love, but I will never support those actions, which are choices that are completely voluntary and completely wrong. I don't see how that response to adultery is different from the same response to GLBQT-Whatever.

76 posted on 06/07/2014 4:36:38 PM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: Yaelle

Not Christian but I do note that Jesus didn’t discriminate but helped and loved all.


No, he walked away from many who did not want to repent and change..................

A big element of love is truth. It is not the squishy feeling our culture says it is.


87 posted on 06/07/2014 5:11:52 PM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Where is your thinking cap? The one you were issued in elementary school.)
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To: Yaelle
Not Christian but I do note that Jesus didn’t discriminate but helped and loved all.

Jesus Christ discriminated frequently. He discerned between criminal and righteous thinking and behavior.

He loved us so much that he obediently followed the Plan of God the Father to go to the Cross and die for the sins of all minkind, so that even homosexuals can turn away from their sin and still have a fellowship with God through faith in what Christ provided on the Cross.

Those who continue to wallow in sin and reject what He provided, by continuing to remain practicing homosexuals(1Cor 6:9) will not inherit the kingdom of God.

104 posted on 06/07/2014 6:39:26 PM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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