Posted on 06/14/2014 2:34:27 AM PDT by markomalley
If the question is “why is it more rational”? Then the simple answer is because you are explaining the existence of something complex and infinite, by having been created by something infinitely more complex and infinite, which naturally leads to the question of “well, where did that come from”? So the rational is that if the universe created itself, you are only stuck with one level of unexplainable infinity, whereas with god creating it you add at least one and possibly infinite levels of infinity, as how did god get here, how did he get his powers, what kind of realm does he exist in, what created that realm, ad infinitum
My take: Then they don’t have to believe in God to explain the universe happening.
Good homily/article by Msgr. Pope
Wouldn’t that make the universe God?.
Your post #21 is very good.
Well, if he allegedly wrote it more than 20 minutes before my post, then he didn’t write it because He wrote it instead when He made the universe about 20 minutes before I posted.
Here’s how I’ve boiled it down: A self-created universe is an absurdity, while a God-created universe is a mystery. I prefer mystery to absurdity.
Thanks for the ping. Good question. Materialistic science does not address it.
Short answer: it isn’t. Any science worthy of the name depends on empirical observation and verification. Whenever science deals with time, the further away they get from the present, the less scientific it is.
Good point.
For me, God's creativity is no mystery. It is simply awe inspiring.
I stand back and admire all created beauty, artistry in all its forms. That created beauty is from our God-given intellect.
That He gave us an eternal soul is simply generous.
That He gave us free will is scary but logical.
Thank God I'm old and now KNOW that the "straight and narrow" is the ONLY path to take.
Heck I was quoting Msgn Pope. His brother seems to think most atheists are hostile to religion and I disagree with the Monsignor’s (or his brother’s) opinion that most atheists Are hostile to religion.
I think you will find that most atheists as most believers keep a low profile and like the old saw, ‘don’t discuss religion or politics’ they keep their opinions to themselves. It is the loud mouth atheists ( like the load mouth faithful) who get the attention and cause those who are live and let live theists and atheists to be painted with a broad brush of their faith or lack there of.
Yep, that’s it.
Don’t quote me on this .......
Carl Sagan was involved in a scientific discussion with a worthy peer. After a while, Sagan asked his fellow, “if you are so smart, how can you believe in “God”. The fellow scientist replied, “if you are so smart, how can you not?”
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