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The Catholic Thing ^ | June 22, 2014 | Kristina Johannes

Posted on 06/22/2014 2:42:07 PM PDT by NYer

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To: piusv

Practice...

...or cheat, like me!

I have a program that I can type text in the way I want to post it, and then I can select the HTML code generated by it to post on FR.


HtmlDocEdit is a simple HTML designer/editor based on the Internet Explorer browser, that allows you to easily edit HTML files without any knowledge in HTML.

With HtmlDocEdit you can change the font/color of selected text, add images, add links, add ordered and unordered lists, and more...

http://www.nirsoft.net/utils/html_doc_edit.html


161 posted on 06/23/2014 8:53:27 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: FourtySeven; piusv

It took me a few months to figure it out even though it’s in the posting guidelines.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3107232/posts


162 posted on 06/23/2014 8:55:52 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: piusv

Is there an easy link to the guidelines?

Yup; posted just above.


163 posted on 06/23/2014 8:56:51 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: piusv; Elsie

The guidelines I was referring to are at the bottom of every posting page (below the text box where you type)

They say, “This forum allows optional use of most HTML tags. If your post does not contain HTML, it will be converted to HTML when posted, retaining paragraphs as typed. This conversion is not performed if you have anything resembling an HTML tag in your text.”

This is what they say now, but I swear it wasn’t that clear before. (At least not to me I dunno haha). Anyway, like I said it took me many months to realize HTML screws up automatic hyperlinks.

For help with HTML, there’s the HTML Sandbox thread floating around. I don’t have a link to that directly, but Elsie might.


164 posted on 06/23/2014 8:58:24 AM PDT by FourtySeven (47)
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To: Elsie
You don't know how.

LOL..that was obvious. Thanks for the link.

165 posted on 06/23/2014 9:26:53 AM PDT by piusv
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To: NYer

I have a friend who is a non married pastor (son of a pastor) who does not marry because he saw the strain it put on his mother and siblings. A married pastor can have conflicting priorities. This gentleman felt that he was always second best to his father’s work.

I also have a friend who is a pastor and has a bunch of kids. He was also a pastor’s son, and used that experience to help his ministry. He uses Stephan’s ministers (not sure if the Catholic church has those, but you need them) to do the things that lay people can and should do. It helps build up a parish, and frees up Pastors for other duties. This man feels he can help relate more to other families being a father and a husband that he could not have being single.

There are benefits to both paths.


166 posted on 06/23/2014 11:03:14 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: Mr Rogers
That is not, in any way or in any post, what I said.

I quoted you word for word. And as I said: “If you meant something different you should have written something different.”

167 posted on 06/23/2014 11:05:52 AM PDT by verga (Conservative, leaning libertarian)
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To: Elsie; metmom

That was Metmom’s quote.


168 posted on 06/23/2014 11:10:11 AM PDT by verga (Conservative, leaning libertarian)
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To: piusv

Are you aware that the screening has completely changed after Pope Benedict XVI sent emissaries to investigate the seminaries?

Any man applying for the priesthood must undergo a two day psychological exam. His parents are interviewed. His priest is interviewed. Friends are interviewed. And it goes on from there.

Then he is put on a probationary period while he attends the first part of his schooling.

So we can all say, “Thank you, Pope Benedict!”


169 posted on 06/23/2014 11:10:16 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

Time will tell whether this was actually enforced. So far it seems to me that we still have way too many gay/gay friendly priests.


170 posted on 06/23/2014 11:37:39 AM PDT by piusv
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To: NYer

Peter was married.

It didn’t disqualify him from being selected to be a disciple by Jesus Himself, nor did it disqualify him from holding a prominent position in the early church.

Scripture nowhere demands that men make vows to the church.

Money should not be a factor in determining whether a man should be a priest of not. Any church that lets financial considerations be a factor in determining that has its priorities wrong. They are trying to serve two masters and not trusting God to provide for the man that HE called to be with that congregation.


171 posted on 06/23/2014 11:46:30 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith....)
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To: JPX2011
It's not like we haven't seen these types of alliances before, i.e., the alliance between leftists and islamists.

People who live in glass house shouldn't throw stones.

YOUR pope kissing the koran. Fits right in with YOUR Catechism of the Catholic church.

http://www.vatican.va/archive/ENG0015/__P29.HTM

841 The Church's relationship with the Muslims. "The plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator, in the first place amongst whom are the Muslims; these profess to hold the faith of Abraham, and together with us they adore the one, merciful God, mankind's judge on the last day."330


172 posted on 06/23/2014 11:48:50 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith....)
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To: metmom
It didn’t disqualify [Peter] from being selected to be a disciple by Jesus Himself, nor did it disqualify him from holding a prominent position in the early church

Which is why the Church never considered it doctrine. Having said that, did Peter stay with his wife when he followed Jesus?

173 posted on 06/23/2014 11:49:12 AM PDT by piusv
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To: JPX2011
Well at least one protestant is willing to admit its a matter of homosexual infiltration and subversion; not a matter of discipline.

Show me one post where a non-Catholic said otherwise.

The point that we've been making about having a married priesthood is exactly that. That it would prevent the priesthood from becoming a safe haven for homosexuals. IOW, it clearly recognizes that homosexual infiltration has occurred. Can you all afford some reading comprehension lessons, or will you just try to stop filtering everything through your anti-Protestant lenses?

Priestly celibacy makes sense administratively, theologically, biblically and in all manner of other categories.

Except Scripturally where even GOD didn't require a celibate priesthood for His Jewish priests.

As an aside, this whole protestant obsession with what is "needed" and "not needed" is merely a rationalistic tendency to serve self.

Nobody said anything about needed or not needed either. We recognize that allowing a married priesthood would free up many married men to fill the role and ease the burden on the Catholic churches because there just aren't enough single priests to go around.

The suggestion is offered as a solution, one that most RC's gasp in horror over.

174 posted on 06/23/2014 11:54:26 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith....)
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To: piusv

Oh come on now. You can do better than that.

I don’t see anyone suggesting that the RCC demand all of its priests to be married.

Do you guys not see the difference between allowing and demanding?


175 posted on 06/23/2014 11:56:45 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith....)
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To: metmom

That response to me was completely insincere. Go back and read my post to you.


176 posted on 06/23/2014 11:57:46 AM PDT by piusv
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To: verga

You quoted my sentence:

“Really? Someone who is not married is superior in discussing marriage to a married counselor?”

In response you wrote, “Really is it now a requirement that ALL marriage counselors be married? When did this law pass? Is it just for your state or all states?”

What you attacked had nothing to do with what I wrote, and what I wrote IS what I meant: “Someone who is not married is superior in discussing marriage to a married counselor?”

The idea that celibacy makes a person a SUPERIOR marriage counselor is ridiculous. They might still be good ones, depending on their nature and how good they are at listening, but they are not improved as counselors by being celibate.


177 posted on 06/23/2014 11:57:54 AM PDT by Mr Rogers (Left wing. Right wing. One buzzard.)
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To: metmom
Can you all afford some reading comprehension lessons, or will you just try to stop filtering everything through your anti-[Catholic]lenses?

Given your last post to me, I'd say your own words could refer to your own reading comprehension skills and bias as well.

178 posted on 06/23/2014 12:01:21 PM PDT by piusv
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To: piusv; metmom
Having said that, did Peter stay with his wife when he followed Jesus?

It is also possible that she died sometime before Peter was following Jesus. The gospels never mention her, just the Mother in law. No one can for certain one way or the other.

179 posted on 06/23/2014 12:02:43 PM PDT by verga (Conservative, leaning libertarian)
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To: Argus; Iscool
By the same token, I guess non-Catholics can’t discuss Catholic doctrines.

By the same token, I guess Catholics can’t discuss non-Catholic doctrines.

It's a two way street.

180 posted on 06/23/2014 12:03:00 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith....)
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